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Matthew Bunker




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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jul, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject: Image of scabbard and sheath c. 13th century?         Reply with quote

Sorry to have to ask but I've searched through all of the obvious threads.

In one of the many topics relating to 12th/13th century scabbards, I saw an image which showed a scabbard and a tabbed knife sheath being worn at the same time (the knife sheath was blue I think). Can I find it again? No, despite hours of searching both here and the manuscript miniatures site.
If anyone can point towards it I'd be very grateful as I think it's a unique depiction of both being worn in that period.

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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul, 2015 1:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't understand what you mean by "tabbed" knife sheath. Something like this in ÖNB 2554 fo.37r?
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4748/10672/

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Matthew Bunker




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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul, 2015 3:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart, yes, that's a tabbed knife sheath.
Somewhere, there is a manuscript image showing one of those being worn on the same side as a sword scabbard.
It is, as far as I can recall, the only image which shows both a sword and a knife being worn at the same time from the 12th or early 13th century.

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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug, 2015 3:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Still not what you were looking to find, but a 13th c. bas-de-page picture of a sheath (as well as a normal reaction when a monk without braies approaches you!)

The Rutland Psalter
BL Additional 62925, fo.37r
London; c. 1260
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_62925_f037r

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug, 2015 5:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer wrote:
Still not what you were looking to find, but a 13th c. bas-de-page picture of a sheath (as well as a normal reaction when a monk without braies approaches you!)

The Rutland Psalter
BL Additional 62925, fo.37r
London; c. 1260
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_62925_f037r


I would love to know the story behind this pretty amusing manuscript picture!
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Scott Woodruff





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PostPosted: Thu 20 Aug, 2015 6:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is this it? It seems to show part of a second smaller scabbard protruding from under the belt of the figure in the blue tunic, on the same side as the sword.


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