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Maciej K.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Nov, 2014 4:05 am    Post subject: Dagger identification - help         Reply with quote

Can anyone help me identify this dagger?
what museum, measurements, anything?
thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Nov, 2014 4:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I can't say what museum it may be displayed, but it is a Scottish Dirk, circa late 18th century to early 19th century, probably 17 inches in length, more or less. The shallow basketweave hilt carving replaced the earlier interlace carving around 1790's and has remained the dominant Dirk handle carving style ever since. The haunches are what lead me to think it's very late 18th century.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Nov, 2014 11:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I agree with Christopher but think it may date a little later. As for where it is, i.e. what museum, I have no idea. Not postive what language the barely visible label to the right is but probably French? Given there is also an English label, this dirk may be in Quebec but just guessing on that.
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Maciej K.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Nov, 2014 11:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thank you guys. this is something.
I`ll wait - maybe someone knows more Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov, 2014 7:11 am    Post subject: language         Reply with quote

The explanations on the side are in english and french, so there are good chances that this museum is on Canadian territory. In the province of Quebec, French is the official language, so french would have first billing. I would look to the other provinces where english is dominant, furthermore I would look to a federal museum where, Canada being officially bilingual, both languages must be used equally, though english is usually the first used. I don't think a federal museum in Quebec would push things by having an english first policy in the only officially french speaking province, so chances are that this museum would be in Ontario, or Nova Scotia, or anyone of the other provinces.
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Maciej K.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov, 2014 10:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanks. helpfull, I will looking for.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is in the Royal Ontario Museum, the Arms and Armor Gallery of the Samuel European Galleries. I have another photo of it, its scabbard, and label posted here: http://www.forensicfashion.com/NTScottishDagger.html


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thank you Ruel Happy very helpfull.
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