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Sonny Suttles
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Teaser photos. The new semi-production model from VA         Reply with quote



https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.552943274782300.1073741827.105805759496056&type=1&l=dd1b82c941

I hope to have this up on the website tomorrow. This is the first of the long awaited and much promised new swords.
The Valiant Armoury War Sword

Take a look at the photos on my facebook page and if you haven't already please click the like button Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice! I really like that scabbard.

I hope to see more of the new models soon.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Next up will be the Crecy that I posted drawings of earlier this year.
Blade and fittings are all done. I just need to finalize the scabbard design this week. Should be posted by next wednesday

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Very nice blade! Looks like it will be perfect for cutting! If you are interested in spreading its popularity as a relatively inexpensive cutting sword I'd like to talk to you about sponsoring Longpoint 2014 and/or Fechtschule New York.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The proportion of the pommel and grip look pretty awkward and a bit chunky. Perhaps this is the angle of the photo though.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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The proportion of the pommel and grip look pretty awkward and a bit chunky.




Here is one of the other images I posted from the link. Maybe in this photo the hilt looks less "awkward and chunky"
Could be that my photo skills could use some upgrading Wink
Or perhaps you just find the hilt not to your liking.
I suppose you can't please everyone but thanks for looking anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I see nothing wrong with the pommel-grip proportions. Happy Btw, how wide is the blade? And what is the cross section in the area from the end of the fuller to the tip?
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The Blade is 2 1/4 inch wide at the guard
The Cross section below the fuller is Lenticular

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sonny Suttles wrote:
The Blade is 2 1/4 inch wide at the guard
The Cross section below the fuller is Lenticular


Oh my. Wide, fullered and lenticular blade. Perfect for me. I have to get me one. Big Grin Will any european distributors have these?
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sonny:

The proportions work for me, a real beauty now on my list. Thanks.

Jon

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 6:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Oh my. Wide, fullered and lenticular blade. Perfect for me. I have to get me one. Big Grin Will any european distributors have these?

I'll have to second all of that, especially the question! Big Grin

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 8:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks pretty good to me!

I think the first off angle pic made the pommel look smallish but head on it is clearly a nice form.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 12:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Will any european distributors have these?


At this time this first run will be available exclusively through the Valiant Armoury Custom Sword Shoppe here
http://www.customswordshoppe.com/shoppe/produ...ucts_id=93

I do ship internationally so send me a note via sales@valiant-armoury.com if you would like to see if this item can be shipped to your country.
Thanks everyone for the comments and for looking.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 12:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sonny Suttles wrote:
Luka Borscak wrote:
Will any european distributors have these?


At this time this first run will be available exclusively through the Valiant Armoury Custom Sword Shoppe here
http://www.customswordshoppe.com/shoppe/produ...ucts_id=93

I do ship internationally so send me a note via sales@valiant-armoury.com if you would like to see if this item can be shipped to your country.
Thanks everyone for the comments and for looking.
Sonny


Thanks, but shipping is not the problem, 35% taxes are. Mad
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is sure a nice scabbard. That's worth the asking price alone.

I also like the sword very much, overall. Nice wide blade with an organic curve toward the point.

My only complaint , for sticklers on historical accuracy, is that most of the sword looks ~1300 era whereas the built up ecusson on the cross looks 15th century. Indeed the sharp lines of this component look more typical of type 10
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
That is sure a nice scabbard. That's worth the asking price alone.


Thanks J.D. I tried to design the scabbard and suspension in this package as close to a Custom level as possible and still be able to reproduce accurately as needed for a semi custom / semi production model.

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My only complaint , for sticklers on historical accuracy, is that most of the sword looks ~1300 era whereas the built up ecusson on the cross looks 15th century. Indeed the sharp lines of this component look more typical of type 10


I gave this a great deal of thought during the design phase. I had a look I wanted to produce and I played with the designs base on Oakeshott typology for this particular blade. In the end though, as an artist, I felt it important to deliver my vision of this sword even if it varied from that standard Oakeshott typology.

Also, given the fact that other than the blade being outsourced at an overseas forge, everything else is either made here in my shop or produced here in the states, I have great flexibility to offer customization on a sword like this so that even a person who likes this sword but wants to customize parts of it can do so if they choose.

I know there are many out there who think Valiant Armoury is a large importer. That could not be further from the truth. Over the last few years the economy has greatly shrunk the size of this business and now I am much more of a custom shop the produces semi custom production swords. I am a one man shop with one part time helper. Every sword that goes out my door has a great deal of my personal "blood sweat and tears" in it.
The plus side of this is that it allows me to deal with my customers on a much more personal level so that together we can fathom exactly want they are looking for .
Sorry to get sidetracked. Thanks so much for your feedback J.D. It is truly appreciated
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sonny Suttles wrote:
I gave this a great deal of thought during the design phase. I had a look I wanted to produce and I played with the designs base on Oakeshott typology for this particular blade. In the end though, as an artist, I felt it important to deliver my vision of this sword even if it varied from that standard Oakeshott typology.


That's perfectly legitimate of course, as long as one is honest (as you are). One can well imagine its frustrating for a creative person to be entirely limited by historical constraints.

Sonny Suttles wrote:
Also, given the fact that other than the blade being outsourced at an overseas forge, everything else is either made here in my shop or produced here in the states, I have great flexibility to offer customization on a sword like this so that even a person who likes this sword but wants to customize parts of it can do so if they choose.


That's great! Then everyone can be happy.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Sword         Reply with quote

Hello Sonny,

Well this looks great! The scabbards that I got from you have always exceeded expectations along with your custom work. Sadly I have had to downsize due to a pending move overseas, but I think I would be very tempted by this sword, even if out of my era. It looks a great value and a striking package.

Robert
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Kick-A$$...........I'll be saving my pennies and nickels. That sword just screams: ''Squire.....My armour is ill-fitting and my horse needs a shoe. It's almost tournament time! And where the hell is my sword????"...... Laughing Out Loud .....Beautiful, Sonny............McM
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov, 2013 10:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow...

That bugger appears as though it would have no trouble convincing a head to "dismount" from the neck it was sitting upon... Eek!

Very nicely-done! I'm looking forward to seeing more!

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