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Gabriele A. Pini




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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul, 2013 1:39 am    Post subject: Stone tomb from Pescia, Italy - Date?         Reply with quote

I'm asking help for a friend. This is a tombal stone from Pescia, Italy, from a church near his home.
Can someone give it a date? Thanks

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Henrik Zoltan Toth




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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul, 2013 3:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I would say 1380.

The t.stone of Nicholas Garai (Palatine of Hungary, died in 1386):

http://mek.oszk.hu/01900/01948/html/cd3m/kepe...f95137.jpg
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Reece Nelson




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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Italian knigh dating         Reply with quote

I think you can safely date this harness for 1370-1380. The chains on the coat of plates came out during that time and didn't last very long at all, no doubt, due to people pulling them off of their horses.

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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul, 2013 9:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://effigiesandbrasses.com/3820/3376/#top Gives 1360
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Christian G. Cameron




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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul, 2013 5:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Excellent pictures.

I'd say more 1360 based on shape. Is the Brasses and Effigies site conclusive, or speculative?

I guess my point would be that most of Altichiero's armoured figures(1370s - 1393) have a different 'look.'

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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul, 2013 6:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I would say E&B reports information from the sites where the images are gleaned. Dating effigies can be a tricky business without a paper trail for it's installation. 1380 might be more accurate, if you can find supporting evidence. Circa 1370 gives +/- 10 years either way.
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