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Tonello Stefano





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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Atlantean sword and Valeria Sword from Conan blue prints         Reply with quote

Hello I wanted to reproduce in 3d those two sowrds and I was looking for some blueprints of the originals , any help ?

thanks a lot for any answer...
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Atlantean sword and Valeria Sword from Conan blue prints         Reply with quote

Hi Tonello

I know Albion Armourers did an amazing recreation (with permission) of the Conan Atlantean sword so I'd suggest starting with them concerning any possible blueprints. There Filmswords section is at the following link :
http://www.filmswords.com/

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Hello I wanted to reproduce in 3d those two sowrds and I was looking for some blueprints of the originals , any help ? thanks a lot for any answer...

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I also know that Raven Armoury has done amazing Atlantean repros and Jeffrey Robinson has done some great ones (I think with the help of Fable Blades) as well. Also, there is a cheaper and arguably non-functional Conan series being done by Windlass Steelcrafts now.
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Atlantean sword and Valeria Sword from Conan blue prints         Reply with quote

Tonello Stefano wrote:
Hello I wanted to reproduce in 3d those two sowrds and I was looking for some blueprints of the originals , any help ?

thanks a lot for any answer...


Good luck. The people who hold the copyrights for these swords don't give permission to reproduce easily or cheaply.

Albion/Filmswords pays for the right to produce replicas. I doubt they'll give out their designs as they paid a lot for them and are almost certainly not allowed to give them out.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan, 2012 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Atlantean sword and Valeria Sword from Conan blue prints         Reply with quote

Tonello Stefano wrote:
Hello I wanted to reproduce in 3d those two sowrds and I was looking for some blueprints of the originals , any help ?

thanks a lot for any answer...


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan, 2012 11:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Neil Gagel wrote:
Jeffrey Robinson has done some great ones (I think with the help of Fable Blades) as well.


More specifically, it was a collaboration between Brendan Olszowy and Jeffrey Robinson, resulting in some rather high-end enterpretations of the Atlantean:





They also did a set inspired of the Father's Sword.

The sword is an ode to the strife of mankind.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anders Backlund wrote:
They also did a set inspired of the Father's Sword.


Your links are broken. They give "forbidden" messages.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello ,thanks for all the answers .... may be I wasn't clear ,but my task is not to recreate a real model but a computer graphic reproduction ....

there are tons of images around but I am confused about the different version with slight different details , like Marto , Albion , Chinese copies etc ...

I woudl mostly need a frontal and side Correct dimensions pictures and some close ups of the details ... Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan, 2012 4:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Regardless of which swordmaker made the various versions of the swords, check out the work of graphic designer Ron Cobb, as he was the guy who actually came up with the concepts for the Atlantean sword and i believe the 'father's sword'. There is a softcover book of his which showcases some of the work that he did on the various films he's worked on which has some illustrations of the atlantean sword. If i find which box its in i'll post a couple of pictures from it.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:

Your links are broken. They give "forbidden" messages.


Ah, that would be disabled hotlinking. That's what I get for being lazy, I suppose. Anyway, it should be fixed now.

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Jan, 2012 4:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thankyou , but so you have no good pictures of the albion Atlantean sword that I could use for reproducing in a 3d software?
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Jan, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://www.myArmoury.com/review_alb_atlantean.html

Cheers. Show us how it turns out!
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jan, 2012 7:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thankyou , the albion is the most faithful to the movie?

Btw do you have also the Valeria Sword reference pictures?

I will be making the sword in 3dsmax/ zbrush and reduce then the polycount to put in the Skyrim game as a downloadable mod ....

I may post some pictures here of the work in progress so you can check and eventually suggest changes or give your feedback if you are interested...
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jan, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tonello Stefano wrote:
Thankyou , the albion is the most faithful to the movie?

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I'm not an expert, but Jody Samson, the smith who made the original blades, worked at Albion (in his own shop) and I handled the original Atlantean movie sword there once, when they were first going into production. My guess would be that Albion probably has the most accurate recreation.

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Tonello Stefano





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PostPosted: Wed 15 Aug, 2012 5:00 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Took a bit of time but I do not forget stuff...

So here is a preliminary low poly model blockut of the Atlantean sword I am working on ..
I want ti implement it as active model in the game Skyrim .. I hope to have made a good reproduction , the furter details like scales on the beasts on hild or other will be added later on the higher poly version in Zbrush ...

Any comment or critique is appreciated Happy ...

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9341/58332257.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Aug, 2012 12:24 pm    Post subject: Book by Ron Cobb         Reply with quote

Christopher Lee wrote:
Regardless of which swordmaker made the various versions of the swords, check out the work of graphic designer Ron Cobb, as he was the guy who actually came up with the concepts for the Atlantean sword and i believe the 'father's sword'. There is a softcover book of his which showcases some of the work that he did on the various films he's worked on which has some illustrations of the atlantean sword. If i find which box its in i'll post a couple of pictures from it.

Hello
I would be very interested in picking up the book you mentioned ... Any idea of the title ?
Thanks very much!
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Aug, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tonello Stefano wrote:
Took a bit of time but I do not forget stuff...

So here is a preliminary low poly model blockut of the Atlantean sword I am working on ..
I want ti implement it as active model in the game Skyrim .. I hope to have made a good reproduction , the furter details like scales on the beasts on hild or other will be added later on the higher poly version in Zbrush ...

Any comment or critique is appreciated Happy ...

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9341/58332257.jpg


Looks OK..should fit nicely into Skyrim Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17177/?tab=2...:|id=17177
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Tonello Stefano





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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well just couse was mentioned the above link ... I have made a reproduction of the Conan outfit ...

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/4793

Diversely my approach is not to take pictures of the movie , create a normal map after those picture and then apply on a low poly model , my process involves a remake by scratch model in high definition , then extract the normal maps ( the needed maps that make the 3d stand out ) and apply then on a low poly model . the difference between normal maps made out of a picture or out of a real 3d model is evident as involves real 3d data that otherwise is not present .

My reconstruction of the sword is based on "personal Skills" and picture to "imitate during the sculpt , soit may result in a non "perfect" reproduction but more an Inspired one ... I hope anyway to make it the most similar possible as I am doing it by hand sculpting and not using a 3d scanner .


The sword is still wip and I am increasing details with time ... so I will post more updates if you are interested in it ...
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here another Wip ....

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2139/atlanteanwip.jpg
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