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Guy H.




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PostPosted: Wed 14 Dec, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Proper scabbard for an English long sword         Reply with quote

Hello all, looking for suggestions for a scabbard. I have an A&A English long sword and want to have a proper scabbard built for it. I'm having Sonny at Valiant make it. Any thoughts on rain guards, hanger suspension & placement etc?
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Lloyd Winter




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PostPosted: Wed 14 Dec, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think that rain guards are no longer really fashionable by the 15th century.
As for the hanger I'm still trying to figure that out to my satisfaction so I'll let others with more experience answer.
I'd also talk to Sonny and see what he recommends.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Dec, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lloyd Winter wrote:
I think that rain guards are no longer really fashionable by the 15th century.
As for the hanger I'm still trying to figure that out to my satisfaction so I'll let others with more experience answer.
I'd also talk to Sonny and see what he recommends.


Rain guards were very much in use in the 15th century. For clarity's sake, I'm talking about bits of leather or metal that hang down from grip and/or guard to cover the mouth of the scabbard. The sword of Estorre Visconti has one of metal, the cluny sword has one in leather as does the original Svante sword. All are 15th century (or maybe early 16th in the case of the Svante).

Perhaps you're thinking of flaps that extend up from the scabbard. Modern repros are often triangular, though historical examples could be triangular or in the shape of a semi-circle.

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Lloyd Winter




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PostPosted: Wed 14 Dec, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad, you are correct. Inaccurate use of terminology on my part
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Guy H.




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PostPosted: Thu 15 Dec, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So no other thoughts besides the use/non-use of rain guards?
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Dec, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Guy H. wrote:
So no other thoughts besides the use/non-use of rain guards?


Guy,
There are many (many) pre-existing threads that deal with scabbards. The search function will help.

Here are a few I found. There are many more. Happy

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=15941
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4951
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8651
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=7030
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=20593

In short, stay away from the type of suspension that we see overused these days on replica swords of the 10th-15th centuries that was really only popular up until the early 14th.

Check out sites like http://gothiceye.com/ and http://effigiesandbrasses.com/ . Check out period art of other kinds. Check out what good, well-researched scabbard makers use for that period (like Albion and DBK), but keep in mind custom scabbards can sometimes suffer in accuracy because of the desired specs given by the customer.

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