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Augusto Boer Bront
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 12:40 am    Post subject: Type XIIIa makers         Reply with quote

Hi.
I'm looking for good sparring reproductions of the type XIIIa. The tinker-hanwei one looks good, but it has the sharpened edge (and I may have some issues buying it from the foreign countries) and the non historical pommel-guard construction. Then there is the albion duke. Yes, magnifical, but I can't afford a 850 euros swords now.
Maybe you have some other suggestion? (I'm thinking about Del Tin, but for now I prefer to look for other reprocucers)

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 5:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

How about these ones in Italy:

Sharp:
http://www.aresacademy.it/1-XIII.html

Blunt:
http://www.aresacademy.it/combat%20line.html
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 6:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The new Epée de Guerre comes into my mind!


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Augusto Boer Bront
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 7:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
How about these ones in Italy:

Sharp:
http://www.aresacademy.it/1-XIII.html

Blunt:
http://www.aresacademy.it/combat%20line.html


In fact, after just 10 minutes of writing this post I just remembered of Ares Acedemy. How stupid Razz .

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

a question: in the end what sort of sword do you want, sharp or blunt? I ask because I know your customs won't allow sharps through and I was getting the impression from your post that maybe you were thinking to get a blunt and make it sharp. if this is the case I recommend you reconsider as blunts don't typically translate well into sharps. there are options out there and I bet if you talked to whatever maker you prefer that they could arrange for a sharp to be shipped not-sharp but ready to sharpen. I would expect this to be a more true statement for higher end pieces but you may find a shop that sells production line stuff that would be willing to take the edge off. look around, do your homework and ask people what they can do and you'll be more likely to get exactly what you want. don't settle if you don't have to.
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 12:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I dunno. I'd might stick with a Del Tin Type XIIIa since you are in the same country as them; at least until I could get into a 'butterknife sharp' version from Albion Europe:


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Augusto Boer Bront
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tom Kinder wrote:
a question: in the end what sort of sword do you want, sharp or blunt? I ask because I know your customs won't allow sharps through and I was getting the impression from your post that maybe you were thinking to get a blunt and make it sharp. if this is the case I recommend you reconsider as blunts don't typically translate well into sharps. there are options out there and I bet if you talked to whatever maker you prefer that they could arrange for a sharp to be shipped not-sharp but ready to sharpen. I would expect this to be a more true statement for higher end pieces but you may find a shop that sells production line stuff that would be willing to take the edge off. look around, do your homework and ask people what they can do and you'll be more likely to get exactly what you want. don't settle if you don't have to.


In Italy there are way TOO confusive laws and sub-laws about buying sharp (so true and lagitimate) weapons from foireing contries. So I'm looking for a blunt sword for reenactment porpouse and maybe for a live tre combact (something like Battle of the Nations) (you can't know, but I wrote this response when I was drunk, so I put like 15 minutes to write and correct it. So I'm sorry for the grammar mistakes, over from being italian and just 18 yers old Big Grin )

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Augusto Boer Bront
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 4:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

JE Sarge wrote:
I dunno. I'd might stick with a Del Tin Type XIIIa since you are in the same country as them; at least until I could get into a 'butterknife sharp' version from Albion Europe:


Happy


The problem is that that kind of sword isn't on his website http://www.deltin.net/14thc.htm Cool

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It is:
http://www.deltin.net/2142.htm
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Augusto Boer Bront wrote:
J.D. Crawford wrote:
How about these ones in Italy:

Sharp:
http://www.aresacademy.it/1-XIII.html

Blunt:
http://www.aresacademy.it/combat%20line.html


In fact, after just 10 minutes of writing this post I just remembered of Ares Acedemy. How stupid Razz .


I haven't handled one of these myself, but based on the statistics and pictures, they seem to be pretty impressive for the price. I believe they are using CNC. Maurizio D'Angelo, the guy behind this, is a nice knowledgeable fellow who writes here sometimes.

Come to think of it, the 'sharps' are probably not really sharp, being Italy. Maybe butter-knife edge?
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Augusto Boer Bront
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Definitely yes. We have quite riscticting laws. From what I've understoood, you have to do gun exams to have a sharpened sword (so ballistic skill tests, medic checks, insanity and legal certificates...)

Edit: can you please link the entire page about the XIV century blades of Del Tins' website? Because in the italin one thet particular sword isnt' showed http://www.deltin.net/14thc.htm (at leat not in my computer)

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Sep, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Both 2142 and 5143 Del Tin 14th century greatswords are in the link with 14th century swords you posted, you just have to scroll the page to the right. Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Sep, 2011 12:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Both 2142 and 5143 Del Tin 14th century greatswords are in the link with 14th century swords you posted, you just have to scroll the page to the right. Happy


Wait? What?! In 3 years I never noticed that you have to scroll to te right? What a jerk... -.-

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