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Craig Shackleton




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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Ranks and structure of the Marxbruder and Federfechter         Reply with quote

Can anyone point me to some information on ranks and organizational structure of the Marxbruder and/or the Federfechter?

Right now I know that the Marxbruder had an elected captain (Hauptmann), and that they both certified longsword masters, and that's it.

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Kurt Scholz





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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 1:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, there's Chico, Harpo and Groucho. Gummo and Zeppo didn't do a lot. Big Grin

Run a translation on this page:
http://www.stahlaufstahl.de/wr/index.php/cc-g...erfechter/
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Craig Shackleton




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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 4:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the link! There is a little more there than I had, although google's grammar leaves something to be desired. I'll have my German neighbour read it.
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Christopher Treichel




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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Interesting article... mentiones that the Marxbrueder and similar organizations were organized along the lines of guilds and that they certified masters and had a hauptman. Also refers to the way they certified new masters. That is all it says about rank structure.
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William Frisbee




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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Microsoft's Bing translator does a much better job on it than Google's tools do.


Give it a try.
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Kel Rekuta




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PostPosted: Thu 26 May, 2011 6:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matt Galas in Belgium has published a few things about Franco-Belgian guilds, their practices and a bit about their structure. Its unlikely he'll soon find time to publish anything comprehensive, by his own admission. Practically any town of any size had at least one sword guild with substantial records surviving. Perhaps he will encourage a young scholar to study and publish more about these rich but relatively unmined resources? Until then, we have to enjoy the tidbits Matt finds time to write up and share with the community.
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Lafayette C Curtis




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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jun, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Too bad about Matt Galas and his schedule. I've been curious for some time about the Guild of St. Michael and other old fencing guilds in the Low Countries, but there's simply not that much information available about them yet in English (and even if I knew Dutch or French I might still have to travel there to get a peek at the charters and documents).
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