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G. Ghazarian
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Stoss-Schwert         Reply with quote

Thrust-Sword, Italian - circa 1500

My inspiration this time comes from a child's bastard sword wth an overall length of 105 cm.
She is so beautiful and unique that I could not resist not making it.
All info was obtained by scrutinizing the picture and following the description in the german text.
Needless to say that I had to enlarge the sword by about 25% and somewhat keping the proportions.

So, here she is;

Overall length :------------------- 53 3/4 inches
Blade length :--------------------- 40.1/2
Handle length :------------------- 10 1/2
Blade width at cross :----------- 1 5/8
Blade thickness at cross :----- 0.250
Center of gravity :---------------- 4 1/4 from cross
Center of percussion :---------- 24
Blade steel :----------------------- 5160
Weight :----------------------------- 3 lb 15.9 oz

The handle is made of Amboyna Burl and Ebony. Metal work on the cross, handle and pommel is of brass (see text on picture), oxidized to tone down color and shine. Rivets are only decorative to preserve strength.
The tang is peened, permanent, final - to prevent me from fooling around with it.

Enjoy.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

WOW ! That is one seriosly beautefull blade, I really envy whoever will become the owner of this!
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'll second that. Happy Very attractive in the decorative details but the lines of the design would be great even without the decoration. Oh, the decoration doesn't distract from the lines so I'm not saying that they do anything but make a very nice sword look even better. Big Grin Cool
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow-wee!! This is really a handsome creation! I am very much enjoying examining the grip.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That twisted inlay on the cross is interesting. Could you post a few closeups of it, and some historical examples?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is the reticulation (samorodok) in the original?
Brilliant work, quite impressive!
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is fantastic. I love the wood species, subtle guard form, and the twisted wire. Based upon weight and some stats, I would guess the Albion Munich is still a little more agile. But, that is a beautiful sword that must handle impressively with the long grip regardless.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Sigh...         Reply with quote

Gabriel, every single new goodie you post makes me wish I had a few hundred thousand in disposable income.

I promise you, should I ever become a deca-millionaire, I'll employ you as my own personal arms smith. You will be compensated handsomely.

Now, back to the sword, I have to say it looks fascinating-- is that a non-fullered Type XVII?

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 4:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jared Smith wrote:
That is fantastic. I love the wood species, subtle guard form, and the twisted wire. Based upon weight and some stats, I would guess the Albion Munich is still a little more agile. But, that is a beautiful sword that must handle impressively with the long grip regardless.


Yup, that says it better than my first post about this sword. Big Grin Cool

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Just thought this sword deserved a standing ovation and a second comment. Wink Big Grin

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The sword is very beautiful. My compliments
There are historical examples of a string of metal on the guard?
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P.S.
edited since.
I see now that this question had already been done.
I apologize. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Really awesome work! Congratulations!
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you very much gentlemen, your good words are very appreciated and most of all, very encouraging.

Now I will try to answer your questions the best I can.

The twisted wires are laid over and under the crossed guard as shortly mentioned in the german text and evident in the picture. A short glance may not reveal this easily, but I'm sure it's there? As for historical examples of this feature, I can only think of the Count of Leonhard von Goerz's sword, which I am presently working on and will be posting here shortly (hopefully), other than that I rather not speculate or guess, This is something left to the members here who are better versed in history and historic swords.

I chose to insert samorodok in the pommel because the text talks about a brass (scrollwork) rosette? of some kind and the picture being not very clear, I chose not to do any guesswork.


With a blade type XVII this is a larger sword then the Munich, but with a COG at 4 1/4" and a stiff blade she handles like a charm even single handed.


Again, thank you very much.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Everything about this sword is just utterly, devastatingly beautiful. I generally prefer "dark age" arms, but to see the form of the sword in such an elevated state is just amazing.

As far as the twisted wire on the guard I don't think I've ever seen used in that way; I like it but I would be worried that another blade would bite into it - or is that the idea? To bind another blade for a moment?

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gabriel-

You are an artist. What impresses me about your work is your grasp of proportion, line, shaping -- the subtle undefinable qualities of artistic impression.

This is a very interesting piece. The proportions of the original that inspired your representation are quite beautiful. You've done well to capture that quality while creating a piece fully unique to your own vision. That isn't an easy task.

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Absolutely stunning
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Another piece of sword art. I love your work, thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks again for your positive responses.

Gavin Kisebach wrote:

As far as the twisted wire on the guard I don't think I've ever seen used in that way; I like it but I would be worried that another blade would bite into it - or is that the idea? To bind another blade for a moment?


There is a twisted brass wire mentioned and shown in the original picture, supposedly to strengthen the ends of the cross guard. The way I have done is not necessarily how it was in reality, consider it an artistic and aesthetic representation of what it may have been.

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Wow mister Ghazarian, your work does not cease to amaze me. What you do is truly original in regard of what other makers do in this day and age...

The twisted wire is really the most eye-catching feature on this particular sword. This kind of feature is really worth exploring I think...

Have you considered doing other kind of swords or weaponry ? I would really like to see an ornate messer or rapier made by you...

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Hugo.

I like making things that are unique, one of a kind, difficult and challenging. I do not spare any effort or material to achieve the goal that sometimes become obsessive. I don't see a point in making something that somebody else has already made and is readily available to purchase.

Hugo Voisine wrote:


Have you considered doing other kind of swords or weaponry ? I would really like to see an ornate messer or rapier made by you...


In fact, I have been thinking about ornate messers but I haven't come across any so far. If you know of any, I would appreciate it if you can post a picture here or email to me.

Rapier? unfortunately I am not set up to make the hilts yet, maybe someday....

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G. Ghazarian wrote:
In fact, I have been thinking about ornate messers but I haven't come across any so far. If you know of any, I would appreciate it if you can post a picture here or email to me.


I posted some examples in the topic of yours: An embellished sword project

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