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Merv Cannon




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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Spanish Museum photos         Reply with quote

I found this link in my files ......
http://www.flg.es/bus_listado.asp
......it has several pages of interresting A&A stuff including two beautiful original rapier-hangers. You dont click on the images to enlarge them though - you have to click on the little highlighted line of Spanish in the panel
.Anyway...see what you think. Its all in Spanish of course so some of you might read more than me, which wouldnt be hard 'cause I can barely navigate 'round TacoBell ! Eek!
Have fun !

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Cool stuff. Happy I used search terms like "espada" (sword) and "daga" dagger to refine the results a little.
Happy

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Peter Bosman




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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

espadin, estoc (estoque), ropera, sable, mandoble, montante, falcata, bracamartes, cinqueda, pugio, parazonium, gladius, lakonia, etc. Wink

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Ivo Malz




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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Folks,

most of what is in the Fundaciňn Lázaro Galdiano is Victorian.

Good Victorian stuff, but Victorian nonetheless.

Some pieces are blatantly pre- raphaelite in style, ad many are reproductions of pieces from the Real Armería.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Try "armadura". That pulls 534 items. And, yes, much of it is pretty obviously modern. I see almost no armour that looks right, but there are some nice arms that look authentic or at least very attractive. I'll take these three, modern or not (I'd guess they're modern):


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ivo Malz wrote:
Folks,

most of what is in the Fundaciňn Lázaro Galdiano is Victorian.

Good Victorian stuff, but Victorian nonetheless.

Some pieces are blatantly pre- raphaelite in style, ad many are reproductions of pieces from the Real Armería.

Regards

Ivo


Are you sure'

I have visualized some items and they are dated as authentic renaissance or baroque pieces.

Do you think the items are described in an inaccurate manner? (it could be ...)
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Bruno Giordan





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PostPosted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This hits the eye ...

http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1338
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Ivo Malz




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PostPosted: Wed 24 Oct, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bruno Giordan wrote:
Ivo Malz wrote:
Folks,

most of what is in the Fundaciňn Lázaro Galdiano is Victorian.

Good Victorian stuff, but Victorian nonetheless.

Some pieces are blatantly pre- raphaelite in style, ad many are reproductions of pieces from the Real Armería.

Regards

Ivo


Are you sure'

I have visualized some items and they are dated as authentic renaissance or baroque pieces.

Do you think the items are described in an inaccurate manner? (it could be ...)


Oh yes, when someone posted the link on Armourarchive I nicked all of the pictures in the armour section in order to have a closer look at them a little later.

Say for yourself: What do you make of these?

http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=160
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=161
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=200
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=199
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=232
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=231
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1454
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1455
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1977
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1982
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1979
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2133
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2131
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2135
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2426

What bugged me was:
Proportions. The weirdly proportioned knee articulations. The pieces mostly ape elaborately decorated armour, but the elaboration is executed very crudely in the details. Fluting in the "gothic" pieces often is completely weird. Tassets often have very fancy, but not historical shapes. Several breastplates even seem to be serially made, compare their decoration.

The better pieces seem like they were fashioned after surviving originals, I have detected several things (like the metal berets) that are modelled after pieces from the Armeria Real.

I haven´t really filtered through and tracked down each and any thing, mark you, what I am telling you are merely my impressions, not a thorough analysis, so don´t pin me down on details. But I am pretty convinced that all the suits of armour that I linked above are Victorian reproductions or history- based fancy designs.

Good ones, I may add, the quality is still way above your average re- enactor armour.

Regards

Ivo

P.S.: Ain´t THAT lovely?
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2605
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Carlo Paggarino




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PostPosted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bruno Giordan wrote:
This hits the eye ...

http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1338


It hits you because it is not possible to have a perfectly reserved enamel with a so badly rusted blade.
Unless its blade satayed in the ground rotting for ages while the enameled guard was preserved in a perfect climat above ground.
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