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Merv Cannon
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Posted: Mon 22 Oct, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: Spanish Museum photos |
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I found this link in my files ......
http://www.flg.es/bus_listado.asp
......it has several pages of interresting A&A stuff including two beautiful original rapier-hangers. You dont click on the images to enlarge them though - you have to click on the little highlighted line of Spanish in the panel
.Anyway...see what you think. Its all in Spanish of course so some of you might read more than me, which wouldnt be hard 'cause I can barely navigate 'round TacoBell !
Have fun !
Merv ....... KOLR
http://www.lionrampant.com.au/
"Then let slip the dogs of war ! "......Woof !
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Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
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Posted: Mon 22 Oct, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Cool stuff. I used search terms like "espada" (sword) and "daga" dagger to refine the results a little.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Peter Bosman
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Posted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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espadin, estoc (estoque), ropera, sable, mandoble, montante, falcata, bracamartes, cinqueda, pugio, parazonium, gladius, lakonia, etc.
peter
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Ivo Malz
Location: Hanau, Germany Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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Posted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Folks,
most of what is in the Fundaciňn Lázaro Galdiano is Victorian.
Good Victorian stuff, but Victorian nonetheless.
Some pieces are blatantly pre- raphaelite in style, ad many are reproductions of pieces from the Real Armería.
Regards
Ivo
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Sean Flynt
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Bruno Giordan
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Posted: Tue 23 Oct, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ivo Malz wrote: | Folks,
most of what is in the Fundaciňn Lázaro Galdiano is Victorian.
Good Victorian stuff, but Victorian nonetheless.
Some pieces are blatantly pre- raphaelite in style, ad many are reproductions of pieces from the Real Armería.
Regards
Ivo |
Are you sure'
I have visualized some items and they are dated as authentic renaissance or baroque pieces.
Do you think the items are described in an inaccurate manner? (it could be ...)
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Bruno Giordan
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Ivo Malz
Location: Hanau, Germany Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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Posted: Wed 24 Oct, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Bruno Giordan wrote: | Ivo Malz wrote: | Folks,
most of what is in the Fundaciňn Lázaro Galdiano is Victorian.
Good Victorian stuff, but Victorian nonetheless.
Some pieces are blatantly pre- raphaelite in style, ad many are reproductions of pieces from the Real Armería.
Regards
Ivo |
Are you sure'
I have visualized some items and they are dated as authentic renaissance or baroque pieces.
Do you think the items are described in an inaccurate manner? (it could be ...) |
Oh yes, when someone posted the link on Armourarchive I nicked all of the pictures in the armour section in order to have a closer look at them a little later.
Say for yourself: What do you make of these?
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=160
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=161
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=200
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=199
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=232
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=231
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1454
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1455
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1977
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1982
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=1979
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2133
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2131
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2135
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2426
What bugged me was:
Proportions. The weirdly proportioned knee articulations. The pieces mostly ape elaborately decorated armour, but the elaboration is executed very crudely in the details. Fluting in the "gothic" pieces often is completely weird. Tassets often have very fancy, but not historical shapes. Several breastplates even seem to be serially made, compare their decoration.
The better pieces seem like they were fashioned after surviving originals, I have detected several things (like the metal berets) that are modelled after pieces from the Armeria Real.
I haven´t really filtered through and tracked down each and any thing, mark you, what I am telling you are merely my impressions, not a thorough analysis, so don´t pin me down on details. But I am pretty convinced that all the suits of armour that I linked above are Victorian reproductions or history- based fancy designs.
Good ones, I may add, the quality is still way above your average re- enactor armour.
Regards
Ivo
P.S.: Ain´t THAT lovely?
http://www.flg.es/ficha.asp?ID=2605
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Carlo Paggarino
Location: Italy Joined: 28 Aug 2007
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Posted: Thu 25 Oct, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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It hits you because it is not possible to have a perfectly reserved enamel with a so badly rusted blade.
Unless its blade satayed in the ground rotting for ages while the enameled guard was preserved in a perfect climat above ground.
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