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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Progress on next Valiant design         Reply with quote

"Bristol", with a non-Oakeshott typology blade (though it's essentially a fullered type XVIII). I'm working on the scabbard now.


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Actually, the blade came out of my file of type XVIs......I consider the blade a XVI........
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow, that prototype looks fantastic! Very nice work, gentlemen!
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is a great design, Christian. Well done. I really look forward to seeing the production version. This line has some serious potential. Oh, and Gus, that is one nasty looking blade...

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is really nice!
Thanks for sharing... of course, when you've done, and if it's just laying around in the way, I'll be glad to give it a home... would be a shame to let it go to waste!

Seriously, that strikes a chord in me someplace... it's going to have to go on my list of "to haves".

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

great stuff, guys. when do you think the prototypes will be back from china?

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I can't do much but echo the sentiments expressed by others. It's a bloody beatutiful sword and I can't wait to see the production-line rendition...
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J. Villarreal wrote:
great stuff, guys. when do you think the prototypes will be back from china?

jason


The swords that have been shown in the photos will stay in China. The first pieces made in China? Supposed to be on the market for the Christmas season.

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methinks it's going to be a good christmas.

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This sword looks great... elegant and badass. Is the chinesse maker supposed to do the grip has it is on the prototype or will there be some "simplifications" ?
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Aug, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The finished scabbard and belt.


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PostPosted: Sat 11 Aug, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I will be very interested to see how these wonderful AT/CF designs translate into the Chinese made production pieces.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Aug, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Progress on next Valiant design         Reply with quote

Christian Fletcher wrote:
"Bristol", with a non-Oakeshott typology blade (though it's essentially a fullered type XVIII). I'm working on the scabbard now.


The blade's lines and proportions are both regal and elegant. Though the blade looks fairly short. I'm guessing 27"-30"? If so, it would be an excellent sword for I:33, methinks...

The execution of the hilt is absolutely stunning, especially considering the price point you guys are aiming for. The cross and pommel display real refinement in both proportion and detail.

I'm really looking forward to this!

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Progress on next Valiant design         Reply with quote

Jeremiah Swanger wrote:


The blade's lines and proportions are both regal and elegant. Though the blade looks fairly short. I'm guessing 27"-30"? If so, it would be an excellent sword for I:33, methinks...


I was thinking similarly.

It looks like the grip and blade proportions might make this a very good one handed sword that could still be used "hand and a half" style as well. I would like to hear Gus's ideas on how it is intended to handle!

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Specs for this sword:

Weight 2lb 7oz
Overall Length 34.25"
Blade Length 26.5"
Blade Width 2.25"
Grip Length 4.25"
Point of Balance 3.5" from guard
Center of Percussion 18" from guard

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: Progress on next Valiant design         Reply with quote

Jared Smith wrote:
Jeremiah Swanger wrote:


The blade's lines and proportions are both regal and elegant. Though the blade looks fairly short. I'm guessing 27"-30"? If so, it would be an excellent sword for I:33, methinks...


I was thinking similarly.

It looks like the grip and blade proportions might make this a very good one handed sword that could still be used "hand and a half" style as well. I would like to hear Gus's ideas on how it is intended to handle!


Hi Jared

The blade length is 27 inches........

This one is for single hand combat, for handling {or fencing}, and yet with a acute enough, and strong enough point for working thru gaps.......

But its the handling.......

When I chose the blade for this, I chose it to be fairly versatile as far as pommel weights go. Some blades are real particular, some not so much.........

Since the blade coming back from China is likely to be a bit different than the one sent to China, I wanted a blade that would be "ok" if the distal taper differed a bit from the original model........

I wouldn't have gotten involved with this if the manufacturer was going to be based in nearly any other sword exporting nation. China however has a large and growing sword industry, of which there are at least three, really good forges. In particular, who can do really nice castings.........and who's blades feature pretty decent distal taper.....

However, its my understanding that the blades will be forged, not machined. So, its unrealistic to expect the kind of consistency that you can get from a blade manufactured in Kent, WA.

So.....no fancy distal tapers on these first projects. For completely handmade blades, forged and ground, or stock removal, convex distal taper is the most common you see, even a linear distal taper can be a challenge........

This particular blade, is slightly convex in distal taper. You could consider it linear, but in reality, its slightly convex. So, the final product should still be a fine product, even if the taper winds up a bit off as the blade is first forged, and later ground into shape............With this much handwork, you're going to have some variation...... and the design takes that into account..........

Should be a nice, quick cut and thrust sword.........great for fencing......

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Any new info on when these blades will be released for orders?
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yeap-I can't wait any more Big Grin Late 2007...well it is now ;D
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry for the bumping of an old thread, but I've been curious about this blade and thought this thread would serve well enough as a springboard. Has anyone heard about any progress on this Valiant Armory/Trim/Fletcher sword? The Valiant website still says late Spring 2008 for the entire line, and while I know the Practicals have gone out I haven't heard any updates on these, and forum searches don't yield much new info I don't already know.

I didn't want to bother the makers themselves when I could just inquire here about the local scuttlebutt from other people eager to get their hands on this one, or other swords from the Signature collection.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think I seriously want one of these, actually. The design is beautiful, and XVI is pretty much my favorite type.[/i]
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