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Patrick Lawrence





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PostPosted: Tue 27 Feb, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Help Identifying Armor         Reply with quote

Hi all I am trying to find more information or photos on this armor below. Hopefully someone can help.


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Doug Strong




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is a composite of at least two 16th century suits. I'm not sure where it resides. For the most part it appears to be mid century and most of the parts seem to be German in origin. Although it is a bit difficult to make out in the photos,some of the parts appear to be from a black and white harness. Black and white armour had high and low spots. The low spots were blackened and the high spots were polished steel--hence the name black and white.
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Patrick Lawrence





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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Doug thats about the period I thought it was. I am working on a complete high detial harness in 3D for man and horse. And I liked the look of this one. The lines and sizes etc. But it just hard to really see with this terrible image.
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Torsten F.H. Wilke




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I came across this partial harness on the web, and the listed information I saved was 1530 N.German (Brunswick if I recall correctly). Unfortunately don't remember where the info was, even though I came across it only a week ago. I really liked the boxy lines on this particular harness, and I believe it was attributed to one of the better known armourers of the time...

Here is also a very similar harness...



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Patrick Lawrence





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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the extra info. Wish you could remember where you found it:)
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James Arlen Gillaspie
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick, the armour you originally posted is in the Museo del Armi 'Luigi Marzoli' in Brescia, Italy. It's north German, and looks rather like it comes from the Brunswick school, to me.
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Patrick Lawrence





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PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

James Arlen Gillaspie - Thanks for the help. Maybe I can find a book from the museum of something with some high res images.
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Rodolfo Martínez




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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello,
I was remembering French Gendarmes using Maximillian armours, but those were fluted, Were the posted armours intended for combat too? Were non-fluted Maximillian armours common?

Thanks

P.D,
Lawrence, are you going to add a waffenrock skirt to give it a more French Gendarmerie look?

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Rodolfo Martínez




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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Quote:
I came across this partial harness on the web, and the listed information I saved was 1530 N.German (Brunswick if I recall correctly). Unfortunately don't remember where the info was, even though I came across it only a week ago. I really liked the boxy lines on this particular harness, and I believe it was attributed to one of the better known armourers of the time...

Here is also a very similar harness...


I found a full view of the armour, the site don´t specify nothing about it but there are beautiful armour photos in this site.

http://www.sl-armours.com/eng/viewpatterns/pa...rmour.html



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