CASi's new Cromwell sword -- myArmoury.com

Thomas Hoogendam · Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: CASi's new Cromwell sword

http://casiberia.com/cas/product_details.asp?id=SH1049

For those interested......

As for me, I'm not sure. I've kinda stopped collecting, focusing on other hobbies for a while, but this one's interesting. Going to think about it some more.

Eljay, Mac, what are your thoughts on the accuracy of this piece? Not so much in terms of construction, because I realize that for this prize, corners must have been cut, but in terms of overall appereance, the blade, detailing.

Eric L. · Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 10:22 am Post subject:

Hi Thomas.

I like it a lot, i`m thinking of buying one Happy

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Bryce Felperin · Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 10:33 am Post subject:

You'll probably have to wait since it says it's out of stock. :-)

Russ Ellis · Industry Professional

I took some pictures of that thing back at the Bladeshow in June. I was wondering at the time, are the screws in the hilt accurate? Question

Chad Arnow · myArmoury Team

Thomas Hoogendam · Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject:

Pitty that the pommels are so completely different. You'd think it would be easy enough to get the pommel right?? Could it be that there are some copyright issues? I doubt it, but still......

William Goodwin · Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:

Yes, yes, and yes......have been waiting for this to come out for along time. Let's hope CASI doesn't drag
their feet on releasing this to retailers/vendors. As far as historical accuracy, for a production piece, the pics don't look
to bad, only time will tell upon closer inspection. Supposedly Eddie Floyd( with the help of the late E. Oakeshott) did the prototype for CASI years ago, they just never jumped on it. Don't know the full details behind the story, so don't take my total word for it. I'm interested in the scabbard as well, just to see what they come up with as a whole.

Armour Class' version is sweet looking, but a bit more as far as money and quality.

All the same, this CASI version of Cromwell's Drogheda sword has a spot reserved in my collection.

Will have to sacrifice another piece from my collection (with much regret......aahummm Nathan....you may keep an eye out for this). But sacrifices must be made for the greater good of my Mortuary collection.

(Didn't think I'd let this slip by without piping in...... Happy

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Cheers,

Bill

Sean Flynt · Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject:

The pommel and overall proportions bug me. Hilt seems oversized compared to blade. But then, I've not seen an OA view of the original. Cue the justified criticism of Mazansky's book, which fails to provide blade stats, views. Maybe it was the publisher/editor's decision, but what a monumental flaw....

The original CASI mort was more attractive, IMHO.

Steve Grisetti · Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject:

E.B. Erickson · Industry Professional

Well, I took a look, and for a production piece it looks OK. Everyone's commnets about the size, pommel shape, weight, etc.. are correct. I tnink the reason for the hilt/pommel not looking quite right is that they have to cut some corners to speed production. Thus, the pommel shape they used is easier to capture than the subtle curves of the original. The guard is curved in only two dimensions, compared to the dished, boat-shaped appearance of the real McCoy. The grip isn't shaped right, either, but again, I think this is to aid production.

Hey Sean, I also wish Mazansly had blade info. But then again, he was working on a hilt typology. What I wish he had done more with is dating of the hilts shown. Most don't have dates, and there's a couple where tI think he dates are off.

Hey Thomas H., did you ever receive the Proto-Mort?

Just to pique the Mort-loving crowd's interest out there, I'm seriously thinking of prototyping a Mort as a future Atrim/EBE collaboration: sketches are done, details are being considered. But that's IF I can find the time to do it this year!

--ElJay

Russ Ellis · Industry Professional

George Hill · Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 12:45 am Post subject:

It's very, very point heavy. I held it at the blade show.

Steve Grisetti · Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 6:18 am Post subject:

Mike West · Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: Yes, Eddie did do the prototype.

Thomas McDonald · myArmoury Alumni

http://www.swordplayalliance.com/swordgallery/swo5.html
Oliver Cromwell's Mortuary Sword
This prototype is a copy of Oliver Cromwell's mortuary sword, which resides at the Tower of London. Eddie hand-copied the sword during his research trip to the Tower, at the request of the Tower's curators. This prototype features a ray skin handle, and was hand enameled and painted with 14 karat gold leaf. The prototype now belongs to CAS Iberia.

Thomas McDonald · myArmoury Alumni

Another Cromwell attributed mortuary Cas should consider doing !
I luv the blade on this one :-)

Mac

* Photo: Fourteenth Park Lane Arms Fair, 1997.