Question about Next Gen Crecy -- myArmoury.com

R. D. Simpson · Posted: Sun 29 Jan, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: Question about Next Gen Crecy

I absolutely love the look of the Crecy-- I've been drooling over Albion's photos of it since it entered production. And now I have chunk of money that was given to me as a graduation gift, so I'm seriously considering putting in an order for one while Albion still has their sale. I'm also highly interested in the German longsword tradition, and, as this will be my first sword, and possibly the only one I ever own, I thought it would be a good idea to get a sword I could use to practice techniques.

Could anyone who has handled the Crecy tell me if the sword would work well with German longsword techniques?

Bill Grandy · myArmoury Team

Joe Fults · Posted: Sun 29 Jan, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject:

I have handled it, and it will work, although in my opinion there are (and will be) models better suited to German Longsword work. That said, please note that opinions are framed by individual preference. I prefer a sword somewhat larger than the Crecy as I am a fairly big guy. The Crecy is a very nice sword and I think its one of the strongest starter swords in the entire NG line. Also note that I don't say starter sword to dismiss it as a sword that is only good for beginners. Rather its the sword I wish I had started my collecting with years ago.

Now, after all that blathering, what I would really recommend if you want to practice and learn is something less sharp and cutty. An unsupervised beginer trying to learn techniques with a sharp sword has the potential to significantly increase the negative consequeces of a mental lapse. If you can find a way to afford a blunt or waster for practice and drill, saving the Crecy for cutting when you get to it and display, I think you will be much better served.

R. D. Simpson · Posted: Sun 29 Jan, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject:

Bill Grandy · myArmoury Team

Greyson Brown · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 3:25 am Post subject:

I am not a big guy (I'm 5 feet 7 inches tall and weight 10 stone (which most people would call 140 pounds)), so I love my Crecy. It was my first Albion, but I can't have my swords with me (Army barracks Cry

), so I got to see my first 5 all at the same time. I love all of my other swords, and would not give up any of them, but if I could only have one sword it would be my Crecy, no questions asked. I feel that it is perfect for both cutting and thrusting, and I can use it comfortably with one hand or two. It also fits the mid 14th century time period in which I am interested. I've also mentioned this elsewhere, but the fact that my friends 8 year old son was highly effective at killing water filled jugs with this sword was just too cool!

That said, I haven't taken the time to study German longsword techniques. I don't know how well it would perform for that, but I would guess it could be used effectively.

If you can afford the Crecy at all, I would urge you not to hesitate for an instant! Be careful, though; it might lead to the realization that you need to own more Albions simply because they are out there.

-Grey

W.H. Kalfsbeek · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject:

Hello,

I received my Crecy about a week ago and I absolutely love it. I had drooled over it since the first sketch came online and ordered it (with Fletcher) when it became available late May.
I'm 5 feet 9 inches tall and the length is just perfect for me. It is a lively and practical sword, I just love the straight lines and the feel of functionality it has to it. Though easily wieldable with 1 hand , the Crecy really is a monster with 2 hands. I have yet to try cutting with.

I have the book '"fighting with the german longsword" by H. Tobler but I haven't really had a chance to explore more than the basic guards and wounders (currently trying to find a partner ). The sword handles very well between the guards and about the wounders, I wouldn't want to stand on the other side Big Grin

... the tip of the blade is quite err, pointy and pretty steady.

To describe my feelings with one word; this is my first real sword and it's just : awesome.
And yes swords are addictive. I thought my hunger would be satisfied if I bought an real swordbut all I want now is another one Happy

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Here's a picture of here, the lightning is pretty worthless, sword and scabbard are actually oxblood. I'm going to make some new pictures over the weekend at my parents place, outside.

Best Regards
Wouter Kalfsbeek

Roger Hooper · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject:

I've always liked that sword. Can anyone say exactly how long is the grip? That isn't a stat that Albion typically lists.

Nathan Robinson · myArmoury Admin

Hi Roger-
The Grip length is 6.625 inches.

R. D. Simpson · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the response, folks. I'm about the same size as Greyson and Wouter, so it sounds like the size of the Crecy will be a good fit for me.
I'm assuming that in order to comfortably use the Crecy with two hands, you'd need to grip the pommel. Is there any special trick to doing so? I know there are different methods for holding the grip of a sword (hammer, handshake, etc), so I wondered if there was a particularly useful way to grip the pommel.

Roger Hooper · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject:

Greyson Brown · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject:

The bottom portion of my right hand may have ended up on the pommel, but if it did, I didn't notice. At least for me, there is no trick to holding this sword two handed. You grab hold with your primary hand (I don't know if you are right handed or not) in a handshake grip (I feel that the oval shape of the grip's cross section guides your hand into this position anyhow), and then grab hold with your other hand. You are now holding your Crecy two handed. Sorry if that comes across as flippant, but this sword is just so comfortable and natural to me that it really does seem that simple.

I'll attach a picture of my Crecy with some other Albions so you can compare grip lengths, if that helps... and one more, just in case you need to drool over something.

-Grey

P.S. My Crecy has Albion's oxblood grip, if you were wondering.

R. D. Simpson · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject:

Gary Grzybek · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject:

Addison C. de Lisle · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject:

My first sword was a Crecy, and I absolutely love it. I too feel it is a *bit* shorter than my ideal (I'm 6'3"), but I disagree about the handle. My hands fit on just fine, but I do notice that gripping the pommell is a very natural thing to do when I'm playing with...I mean testing the balance Big Grin

Of course I have no prior hands-on experience or training with swords, so I could be completely mistaken... Wink

R. D. Simpson · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject:

So, at the risk of repeating myself, is there any particularly useful way to grip the pommel, or do you just grab the thing? Happy

Gary Grzybek · Posted: Mon 30 Jan, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:

Bill Grandy · myArmoury Team

I totally agree with Gary. Just to add to what he said, your grip will subtly change depending on the type of cuts you're making, or what guard you're in. Since R.D. brought up German longsword, a perfect example is striking a zwerchau from vom tag. When you make that cut, in order to keep the edge alignment, the pommel will just slightly rotate in your hand.

Though I did want to point out that not everybody grips the pommel. There were many period masters that advocated or illustrated longswords being held by the grip only.

Jeremiah Swanger · Posted: Tue 31 Jan, 2006 12:19 am Post subject:

Gary Grzybek · Posted: Tue 31 Jan, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: