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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jan, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Laminated/Segmented Peascod Breastplate?         Reply with quote

I was browsing through European Arms and Armor by Charles Henry Ashdown recently, and in the top corner of a page about 3/4 of the way through the book, there was a small illustration (done by the author, not a contemporary artist) of a peascod breastplate with several horizontal segments. I believe the caption said that the breastplate was laminated, and belong to the Tower of London's armoury. Can anyone certify this?...this illustration was odd and unlike any other armor i've ever seen. Thanks and Happy New Years, -Daniel[/url]
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jan, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

what page? sounds like an anime breastplate.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jan, 2006 11:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry, I the misplaced book before. The illustration is at the top left of page 284. I am quite suspicous of the author's credibility, due to many oddly shaped illustrations of various types of armor. This particular breastplate however, baffles me the most. Like I said, it cites the Tower of London..... I know they had "jacket" peascod breastplates that fastened to down the middle, but segments seem farciful.

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jan, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

D. Rosen wrote:
but segments seem farciful.


No, they definately existed in the Rennaissance. As Chuck said, there's a style of breast plate called an anime (not to be confused with Japanese cartoons), and that would be my best guess as to what you're describing. Unfortunately I don't have the book, so I can't say for certain.

Here's an example:

http://www.cullodenantiques.com/jpg/hungarian_breastplate.jpg

Here's a modern made one (along with pictures during it's construction and a photo of the original on which it drew it's inspriration):

http://www.oaksarmoury.com/anime.html

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jan, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks! It just seems so weird...so totally "out-of-period"
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jan, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is just conjecture on my part, but the Italian Renaissance saw an idealization of "classical" (i.e. Greco-Roman) design. That showed in their literature, their art, their philosophy, and their arms and armour. I wouldn't doubt it if this style of breastplate was at least partially inspired by the Roman lorica segmentata, though as I said, that's entirely a personal thought, not something I've done any research into.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jan, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yeah, that's just an anime-styled breastplate, a form of armour typically Italian










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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jan, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

There were a series of suits made in this style at the Greenwich armoury in the 1550's and the type stayed popular in the east with Polish cavalry until well into the 17th century.
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