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Robert B. Allison
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An additional thought, crass and commercial though it might be......you guys (the Albion crew) ought to get those three Romans out ASAP partly because I have an Allectus on order since roughly last April, but mostly because I suspect that the popularity of that new HBO series "Rome" might just generate some additional interest and sales from atypical purchasers.
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Gabriel Stevens
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mmmm Agincourt. Can't wait, thanks for the info.
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Anton de Vries
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If the Agincourt gets the lovely waisted grip of the Fiore concept drawing I'd be willing to forgive Albion for postponing the Fiore. 
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Brian M
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Perhaps the Agincourt would not be correct with a waisted grip.
Brian M
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Peter Johnsson
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| Anton de Vries wrote: |
If the Agincourt gets the lovely waisted grip of the Fiore concept drawing I'd be willing to forgive Albion for postponing the Fiore. |
As I have not yet made the orginal waxes for the Fiore, I cannot say if it is possible to have the grips interchangeable between the Agincourt and the Fiore.
There is a price difference between the two swords and that is partly because of the grips. The waisted grip of the Fiore takes quite a bit more handwork to get right. The grip of the Agoincourt was designed to be made with fewer moments to keep price down.
If it works out it *might* be possible to have the grips interchangeable,with a slight increase in price from extra labour involved.
Best
Peter
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Anton de Vries
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| Peter Johnsson wrote: |
If it works out it *might* be possible to have the grips interchangeable,with a slight increase in price from extra labour involved. |
That would be great & thanks for the reply Peter.
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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Randal Graham
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Hey, Happy anniversary, the line-up looks awesome.
R.H.Graham
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Howard Waddell
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| Randal Graham wrote: | | Hey, Happy anniversary, the line-up looks awesome. |
Thanks, Randal!
How are you doing and what are you up to these days?
Best,
Howy
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Steve Maly
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Howy,
Just a quick question on swords #1 & 2. Are they on the same blade as the existing Xa's or the hollow-ground blade for "soon to be announced" Museum Line Xa.1? #2 looks suspiciously similar to Xa.1 (or is it just wishful thinking on my part?)
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Randal Graham
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| Howard Waddell wrote: | | Randal Graham wrote: | | Hey, Happy anniversary, the line-up looks awesome. |
Thanks, Randal!
How are you doing and what are you up to these days?
Best,
Howy |
OK.
Doin the steel from dirt gig mainly, building a messer... gotta try and beat you guys to SOMETHING...
R.H.Graham
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Peter Johnsson
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| Steve Maly wrote: | Howy,
Just a quick question on swords #1 & 2. Are they on the same blade as the existing Xa's or the hollow-ground blade for "soon to be announced" Museum Line Xa.1? #2 looks suspiciously similar to Xa.1 (or is it just wishful thinking on my part?) |
Hey Steve,
I'm not Howy but I'd thought I could chime in.
The swords # 1 & 2 are indeed to be based on that beautiful Xa.1. I have extrapolated dimensions from various sources and my own impressions from seeing this sword over the years: the NG blade draws heavily on the original sword. We make an NG version to offer an alternative for those who feel the Museum Line prices are prohibitive.
Eric McHugh and I are presently in London. Today we are going to visit the Wallace collection to have a look at the Xa.1 sword to add some fresh impressions to the interpretation. We are not going to be making a first hand documentation this time, as David Edge is away on business to the states. We are however going to look very closely at the sword. The NG blade are going to include hollow ground edge bevels and other unique details that make this blade swpecial.
We are also going to offer a Museum line version of this sword, but not before I have made a personal documentation.
The NG blade is close enough to perhaps merit the name copy or replica, but it is not going to be based on caliper measurements of the original, only scetches and impressions from seeing it in the vitrine and some additional information of weights and dimensions.
Hope this helps.
ON a side note: Our trip here has already proved rewarding. Yesterday we spent a long day in the Royal Armouries in Leeds documenting a number of very interesting swords. Most of these are not normally available to handling, but the vitrine where these are displayed was opened for reorganization and the swords at hand for documentation...:-)
Sometimes luck smiles at you.
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Russ Ellis
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| Peter Johnsson wrote: | | Steve Maly wrote: | Howy,
Just a quick question on swords #1 & 2. Are they on the same blade as the existing Xa's or the hollow-ground blade for "soon to be announced" Museum Line Xa.1? #2 looks suspiciously similar to Xa.1 (or is it just wishful thinking on my part?) |
Hey Steve,
I'm not Howy but I'd thought I could chime in.
The swords # 1 & 2 are indeed to be based on that beautiful Xa.1. I have extrapolated dimensions from various sources and my own impressions from seeing this sword over the years: the NG blade draws heavily on the original sword. We make an NG version to offer an alternative for those who feel the Museum Line prices are prohibitive.
Eric McHugh and I are presently in London. Today we are going to visit the Wallace collection to have a look at the Xa.1 sword to add some fresh impressions to the interpretation. We are not going to be making a first hand documentation this time, as David Edge is away on business to the states. We are however going to look very closely at the sword. The NG blade are going to include hollow ground edge bevels and other unique details that make this blade swpecial.
We are also going to offer a Museum line version of this sword, but not before I have made a personal documentation.
The NG blade is close enough to perhaps merit the name copy or replica, but it is not going to be based on caliper measurements of the original, only scetches and impressions from seeing it in the vitrine and some additional information of weights and dimensions.
Hope this helps.
ON a side note: Our trip here has already proved rewarding. Yesterday we spent a long day in the Royal Armouries in Leeds documenting a number of very interesting swords. Most of these are not normally available to handling, but the vitrine where these are displayed was opened for reorganization and the swords at hand for documentation...:-)
Sometimes luck smiles at you. |
Sigh... and so Peter presents me with a serious difficulty. I've currently got a credit with Albion. I was already contemplating applying that credit to the Bayeriches (spelling) Museum Sword. However the Xa.1 sword is the other sword that is on my "must have" list... either one is probably AT LEAST a year or better away... must call Mike...
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Jeremy V. Krause
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Hello Peter,
What time period do you attribute the albion models #1 and #2 respectfully. Does #2 represent the same broad and uncertain dating of 1100-1350 as quoated by Oakeshott? The pommel on #1 represents a later type form according to Oakeshott. I do not have TSIAOC in front of me at the moment to cite the dating.
An additional question- what are your thoughts as to the historic genesis of hollow grinding of the european middleage and/or rennaisance sword.
Thanks for the information,
Jeremy
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Howard Waddell
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Patrick Kelly
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Congrats to the winners. Very fitting names. I love the Chevalier
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Edward Hitchens
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I got an Honorable Mention! I won't complain about that. 
I like the Oakeshott.
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Roger Hooper
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| Posted: Mon 28 Nov, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Edward Hitchens wrote: | I got an Honorable Mention! I won't complain about that.
I like the Oakeshott. |
Now we have an Oakeschott sword from Albion as well as A&A.
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Nathan Robinson
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Yes. I am also bothered by the choice of "The Oakeshott" as a name. I question the choice, as it seems to confuse things in the market given that Arms & Armor has had a sword named "The Oakeshott" for several years now in their standard line-up. As a customer, it makes it more difficult to discuss these things without further explanation. As a site admin, it makes it worse. But beyond that, I just think there should be a common courtesy in such a small marketplace for these things.
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Addison C. de Lisle
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Nice, I got an honorable mention! I also suggested the name "Maximillian', but alas, not the first...
Oh well, not complaining! Does this apply to Mercenaries' Tailor?
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This is a standard topic
