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Nathaniel C.





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PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov, 2021 10:20 am    Post subject: 16th century pauldron articulation         Reply with quote

Hi all, itís been a very long time.

After too long of a break Iíve come back to hobby of armouring. Iím working on a 16th century cuirass for theatrical stage use. However Iím having a really hard time finding internal reference photos of 16th century pauldrons, specifically where the lames are overlapping in a downward manner. Iím not specifically copying this armour but itís a good example of what trying to imitate.

So, are the rivets on the descending lames ornamental? They donít appear to be sliding rivets. They canít be articulated on leathers because the plates overlap right where the rivets areÖ. My guess is the lames are articulated on sliding rivets in the back and leathers on the front which would make these visible rivets purely ornamental, probably added to match the visible sliding rivets on the back. But I canít find any images of extant examples to prove this theory.



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Sean Manning




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PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov, 2021 10:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If you can't afford the Wallace Collection catalogue with the Iron Key (and if you make a 15th/16th/17th century armour its worth the money) Wade Allen's collection is a good source for photos of the insides of armour https://www.european-armour.com/Armour-Arms-Collection.html Click on the photos to see his pages for the individual items.
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Nathaniel C.





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PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov, 2021 12:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks! Thatís very helpful.
As much as Iíd like the Iron Key, Iím just a hobbyist at this point so itís not really worth the cost.
The photos Wade Allen provides are exactly what I needed though. It appears my assumption was correct and they are indeed ornamental rivets. He has one example that doesnít have them at all, which looks like a more munitions grade piece.
Iím using fairly thin stainless for weight/practical considerations since this is for stage. Iíve never done sliding rivets before and Iím not sure how well theyíd work in the thinner metal. At the very least I want to understand how the originals articulated before I make any modifications or simplifications for practical considerations.

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