Posts: 132 Location: East Tennessee
Fri 06 Apr, 2018 8:16 pm
Leatherless Scabbards
Posts: 212 Location: Canada
Fri 06 Apr, 2018 10:54 pm
I'm not an expert either. But I have a few books and have been doing a bit of research on swiss daggers/baselards lately and I can/have find/found no evidence of this kind of scabbard. Of course, this lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen but the time to believe something is when there is evidence...so until there is an example I would be skeptical. That is a nice looking dagger though! Maybe you can buy it and have a scabbard made up?
Posts: 132 Location: East Tennessee
Sat 07 Apr, 2018 5:01 am
Hi Dan. I, too, have seen ZERO examples of a wood-only scabbard. Thanks for your input!
Posts: 818
Sun 08 Apr, 2018 4:15 am
1+ for me too
Lots of research but no evidence for wood sheaths for knives
Posts: 132 Location: East Tennessee
Sun 08 Apr, 2018 5:44 am
Harry Marinakis wrote: |
1+ for me too
Lots of research but no evidence for wood sheaths for knives |
Thanks Harry.
Posts: 1,462 Location: Laurel, MD, USA
Sun 08 Apr, 2018 6:25 am
Just to drag in possible irrelevancies, there are a couple all-wood scabbards from Bronze Age burials in Denmark, at least. Maybe one or two from other places, but way early. It certainly wasn't the only option, they were also made of leather/hide, with or without wood, and there's a neat one with a wood core wrapped in strips of bark.
Plus there 3 very nicely carved wood scabbards from the Nydam bog finds, c. 400 AD. At least one has elaborate metal fittings.
A bit earlier than you were thinking of, obviously! And I'm *not* trying to claim that the concept would carry over.
Matthew
Posts: 818
Sun 08 Apr, 2018 7:19 am
Excellent point Matthew
I think given the baselard in the original post, I at least was thinking only of the medieval period. I did not consider all of the middle ages, or iron age, or bronze age....
Posts: 132 Location: East Tennessee
Sun 08 Apr, 2018 10:29 am
Matthew Amt wrote: |
Just to drag in possible irrelevancies, there are a couple all-wood scabbards from Bronze Age burials in Denmark, at least. Maybe one or two from other places, but way early. It certainly wasn't the only option, they were also made of leather/hide, with or without wood, and there's a neat one with a wood core wrapped in strips of bark.
Plus there 3 very nicely carved wood scabbards from the Nydam bog finds, c. 400 AD. At least one has elaborate metal fittings.
A bit earlier than you were thinking of, obviously! And I'm *not* trying to claim that the concept would carry over.
Matthew |
Good point Matthew. You are correct that I was referring to the baselard/schweizerdolch, but this is interesting to learn nonetheless. I can also add that in the 15th and 16th centuries we of course have Holbein Daggers with wood cores overlaid in latten, gold, and/or other soft metals featuring very ornate carvings and decoration. Of course, no leather here either. I’ve attached two examples.
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