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Dave Hahn




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Oct, 2003 10:05 pm    Post subject: Gauge of wire for wrapping hilts         Reply with quote

I'm not all familiar with gauges so I'd thought I'd throw yet another question out there.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2003 4:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I used 20 gauge wire on this sword:

http://www.myArmoury.com/review_mrl_alb.html

It seemed to work pretty well.
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Dave Hahn




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2003 6:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

out of curiosity, would 20 gauge be appropriate for twisted wire?
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Jason Dingledine




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2003 7:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dave Hahn wrote:
out of curiosity, would 20 gauge be appropriate for twisted wire?


Hi Dave,

When you twist the wire, it will increase the diameter (two strands wrapped around one another), so I would use something that you would think it way too small. I've had really good luck with 28 and 30 gauge wires, twisted as tightly as I can get them.

The tighter you twist it, the more comfortable and smooth it will be to a bare hand. Also, it will tend to loosen less over time if it is twisted very tightly. One of the big issues with one group of imported swords is that the wire loosens quickly, and this is partly due to the wire not being twisted tightly enough.

Also, over estimate the amount of wire you'll need. For your DT grip (if that is what this is for), I would say somewhere in the vicinity of 25-30 feet of twisted wire would do. Also, when twisting it, it will shorten up, so don't expect to get the same length of twisted wire, as you started with when it was two separate strands.

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Dave Hahn




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2003 8:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanks for the advice! i really appreciate it.

i'm actually rehilting a del tin 2149. i've managed to refinish the pommel and hilt to a 800 grit and plated the rainguard in silver.

next i want carve a new grip from ash, wrap it in twisted silver wire, and get a local smith to repeen it for me.

i wonder what the end product will look like.

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Gabriel Stevens




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2003 11:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Out of curiousity how do you secure the two wire ends?
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Jeff Stewart




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2003 11:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This topic and your previous one “Honest Opinion” reminded me of something a friend of mine did to mend/mod a hilt that he had broken on one of his swords. He carved a new one from oak and fitted it. After that, he wrapped the bottom half (next to the pommel) in a small wire (have no clue as to the gauge) and did the top in ostrich leather (which is very easy to manipulate) in the same method Björn described in the other topic. It’s a very attractive, durable, and comfortable combination that worked well for his bastard.

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Dave Hahn




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Oct, 2003 1:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gabriel Stevens wrote:
Out of curiousity how do you secure the two wire ends?


you tuck the end wire piece under the wood hilt and carefully hammer it until it is embedded at the very bottom and top of the hilt.

does that make sense?

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