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Roger Hooper




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PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct, 2015 4:16 pm    Post subject: A new Del Tin Walloon sword?         Reply with quote

I came across this photo in the New Items section on the Del Tin website. Unlike the other items in this section, there was no model number or description assigned to it, just the photo. the photo's name is Vallona4. It is obviously a 17th century Campaign Sword, and could be called a Walloon for lack of a better name.

I am a big fan of this sword type, and want to know more about this Del Tin version. Does anyone know anything about it? (Of course I could always ask Del Tin) Maybe it will show up at KOA before too long. the only thing I don't like about it is the design of the thumb ring - it shouldn't terminate on the pierced side-plate.

There are some other interesting things in Del Tin's New Items section. Check it out - http://www.deltin.net/news.htm



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PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct, 2015 4:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Perhaps the problem with the thumb ring is the result making the pierced plate on that side too wide. Typically the plate on the thumb ring side is narrower, making that part of the hilt unsymmetrical. See the original felddegens below. (love that artichoke pommel)


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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct, 2015 2:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Finally a production Walloon/Felddegen/Haudegen/Schwedendegen/Campaignsword!
I have been waiting for this for a long time.
I agree about the thumb ring, but maybe it could just be bent into desired form?
Even though the thumbring side is often narrower, it is not always the case.
I attach an example.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct, 2015 2:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

But I must say I find the blade they have chosen a bit dull, when considering all the different kinds used on the originals.
Del Tin could do better...
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2015 3:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I sent a mail and asked Del Tin about it.
It will be available from February.
I even got some more pictures. I will try to upload them tomorrow.

/Viktor
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Viktor Abrahamson wrote:
I sent a mail and asked Del Tin about it.
It will be available from February.
I even got some more pictures. I will try to upload them tomorrow.

/Viktor


Thanks Victor. I look forward to seeing those photos. I hope at least one of them is a full hilt and blade view,
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Oct, 2015 2:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is the pics Fulvio sent me:



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PostPosted: Wed 28 Oct, 2015 3:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And another one including the blade.



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PostPosted: Wed 05 Oct, 2016 12:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Viktor got an email from Del Tin about a year ago, saying that this sword would be available after February 2016. I wonder what happened? It still hasn't been released.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Oct, 2016 1:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The sword is in the price list.
If you want to order something from Del Tin you contact them at info@deltin.net and they provide you with an up to date price list. The sword is in that list. But strangely no pictures in the catalogue.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct, 2016 8:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I asked Fulvio Del Tin about this sword. Its designation is DT6170. It will be released sometime early in 2017.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct, 2016 11:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It appears to me that the thumb ring, at least on that individual example, looks long enough that it could be easily bent over to the guard and brazed in place. It would spoil the grip of course, so this would be a refit project. But apart from that it wouldn't be too much trouble.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct, 2016 12:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
Perhaps the problem with the thumb ring is the result making the pierced plate on that side too wide. Typically the plate on the thumb ring side is narrower, making that part of the hilt unsymmetrical. See the original felddegens below. (love that artichoke pommel)


Yup. It's way too symmetrical.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul, 2018 6:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anyone heard anything more about the Del Tin Walloon above, DT6170?
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul, 2018 1:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Never mind, just got a message from Fulvio Del Tin that it is not available and no estimate of future availability.
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul, 2018 7:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is too bad. It looked like it had some design problems. I guess they figured it wasn't worth fixing.
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