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Martin Kealey




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PostPosted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 12:48 am    Post subject: Buckled up haubergeons         Reply with quote

I have been looking through my (admittedly limited) pictorial sources to see if there is any evidence of full maille haubergeons that were put on like a shirt and buckled up (either front or back) vs being dropped over the head like a sweatshirt. There are plenty of images of arming doublets with voiders that are buckles/tied up; what about haubergeons? Has anyone from myArmoury come across any examples?
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 6:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's one.

http://www.clevelandart.org/art/1923.1120

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Martin Kealey




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PostPosted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 6:47 am    Post subject: haubergeon         Reply with quote

Thanks. This is very interesting. I notice that the buckles and straps are reported to be modern. Was this haubergeon originally designed this way? Is there anything else on this piece?
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 8:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi, I had a similar question in this thread:

http://myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=31422&highlight=

In the example that I saw, it's hard to tell what exactly is going on with the front flap and how it is fastened. If there are any straps they are covered up by the chest plate. To me it looks like a double breasted jacket that opens in the front but to others it just looks like an extra flap on a closed-front hauberk.
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: haubergeon         Reply with quote

Martin Kealey wrote:
Thanks. This is very interesting. I notice that the buckles and straps are reported to be modern. Was this haubergeon originally designed this way? Is there anything else on this piece?


Sorry no idea. I just came across this while doing a google image search for barbutes.

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Mar, 2015 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Buckled up haubergeons         Reply with quote

Martin Kealey wrote:
I have been looking through my (admittedly limited) pictorial sources to see if there is any evidence of full maille haubergeons that were put on like a shirt and buckled up (either front or back) vs being dropped over the head like a sweatshirt. There are plenty of images of arming doublets with voiders that are buckles/tied up; what about haubergeons? Has anyone from myArmoury come across any examples?


Martin, have you looked here? https://www.pinterest.com/worldantiques/european-mail-armor
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