Author |
Message |
Anton de Vries
|
Posted: Fri 21 Jan, 2005 6:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
Rabbe Jan-Olof Laine wrote: |
Contrary to common myths, wielding a zweihänder doesn't take incredible amounts of strength (although, as with any kind of fencing, being strong does help somewhat). The long handle grants quite a bit of leverage to move the thing around, and that, coupled with proper body mechanics, makes it quite easy to use one.
Rabbe |
I was probably a 'bit' quick in my (blunt) judgement as usual.
You've made me curious though. Now I'll have to find one I can borrow, so I can see for myself.
|
|
|
|
Joel Whitmore
Location: Simmesport, LA Joined: 25 Aug 2003
Posts: 342
|
Posted: Fri 21 Jan, 2005 10:11 am Post subject: Great posts |
|
|
I looked at teh ARMA manuels online too. The Golaith manuel shows what seems to be genuine two-handers. However, sometimes there can be a blurred line between what we commonly refer to as a zweihander and a hand-and-a-half sword. I do believe that the basic underlying principals that people such as Fiore and Silver talk about (balance, timing etc) would apply to the two-hander. I don't know specifically of judicial duels fought with these big swords , but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. At first one would think that using a 4-6 pound sword would be difficult and slow. Difficult maybe, but not necessarily slow. As someone mentioned above, great leverages can be generated with a long handle and with half-swording, the blade can be made shorter and faster when needed. What I was specifically wondering if the 2-handers actually used some moves or principals from polearms or a staff. This would seem sensible since the sword would be nearly as long as a staff.
Joel
|
|
|
|
Bill Grandy
myArmoury Team
|
Posted: Fri 21 Jan, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I haven't really focussed on "true" two handers in my studies, but yes, according to period manuscripts, they do bridge that gap between polearm and sword.
Quote: | And I (like Anton said) am a bit confused by these terms and there actual looks and sices.... |
Aren't we all! The terminology is confusing because there really never was a universal terminology set in place. George Silver's two handed sword, for instance, is not one of the two-handers being discussed in this thread. Vadi's longsword is bigger than the typical hand and a half. They're all two handed swords, and yet they aren't all the same sword.
|
|
|
|
Nate C.
|
Posted: Fri 21 Jan, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Greetings,
Is it just me, or do the swords on the Goliath manuscript resemble the swords mentioned in this post? What really leapt out at me was the short ricassos shown in both places.
Cheers,
Nate C.
Sapere Aude
"If you are going to kill the man, at least give him a decent salute." - A. Blansitt
If they ever come up with a Swashbuckling School, I think one of the courses should be Laughing, then Jumping Off Something. --Jack Handy
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You cannot attach files in this forum You can download files in this forum
|
All contents © Copyright 2003-2024 myArmoury.com All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum
|