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Johan K





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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct, 2012 1:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Alright, so now I'm confused. What is the definition by which you differentiate between a longsword and a basterd sword?

I'm sure this question has come up many times before, and I tried searching, but it didn't really come up with anything useful.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Johan K wrote:
Alright, so now I'm confused. What is the definition by which you differentiate between a longsword and a basterd sword?

I'm sure this question has come up many times before, and I tried searching, but it didn't really come up with anything useful.


My basic understanding is a bastard (hand-and-a-half) sword is light enough to be used with one hand as a single-handed sword but able to be used with 2-hands using the grip or a combination of the grip and pommel.

Some swords advertised out there as bastard swords are not real bastard swords.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Johan K wrote:
Alright, so now I'm confused. What is the definition by which you differentiate between a longsword and a basterd sword?


For me, a bastard sword is a sword that can be used either in one or in two hands, preferably (though not necessarily) equally well in both situations. A longsword, on the other hand, is a two-handed sword that can still be wielded (not necessarily well) in one hand. You can see why the overlap is necessarily large and the cutoff point always arbitrary (since opinions on balance and handling will certainly differ from one swordsman to the next).

The difference isn't really that important from a martial perspective since I don't think any manual speaks of techniques specifically for bastard swords. You just use longsword techniques when you're holding the sword in two hands and one-handed sword techniques when you have it in one.

In short: the only way you can get it wrong is by sweating it too much. The two definitions aren't meant to be exclusive (except, perhaps, in role-playing games).
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I define the bastard sword as a blade of single-hand proportions with a hand-and-half hilt.
Anyway, here's my latest.



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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct, 2012 8:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's my contribution:

A&A Edward III (bastard in grip length, but a big son of a gun):


Albion Mercenary (used to own):

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Two past bastard projects. Same Windlass blade (Erbach).


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Its a simple one, a H/T Bastard sword. I prettied it up a bit, making a new grip for it and redoing the scabbard.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I bought this sword when it was known as the ATrim Maker's Mark Triple Fuller XIII over at Christian Fletcher's site. It became the AT1326 and can now be found at Tried and True Armory. I'm not sure that a XIII can be classified as a Bastard, though it does have some of the qualifications -

A grip just long enough to fit two hands - 7 inches
A shortish blade at 31 inches
It can be used fairly well with one hand, but really sings with two.

It is an amazing sword, one of Gus Trim's best designs. It is beautifully balanced and has the quality of feeling alive in your hands



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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Another A&A GBS         Reply with quote

Here is my newly minted A&A GBS I do not have a picture out of the scabbard, because she is on her way back from CF as we speak. As you can tell grip wrap now matches the scabbard.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Another A&A GBS         Reply with quote

Michael Ahrens wrote:
Here is my newly minted A&A GBS I do not have a picture out of the scabbard, because she is on her way back from CF as we speak. As you can tell grip wrap now matches the scabbard.


That looks fantastic all dressed up like that.

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

o man that looks good Michael. the A&A german bastard sword has always been one of my favorites i had to get one myself a few years back. though i am kicking myself a little now because i talked with Craig about extending it's grip from its 8 inchs to 10 or 12 to make it a little more comfortable for me (it's a little heavy for me due to my size).




anyhow, below i've got an image of it with my own personal touch with my Hrisoulas hand-and-half. the A&A sword was has a walnut sheath all hand carved with mid relief of rose buds and one blooming rose. i've often thought about tearing the grip off of it and also making a wood carved walnut girp, but i understand that A&A has some pretty tuff grips to crack off their swords.



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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

From my small but growing collection:
XVIIIa Not as nice as the A&A version, but here's the Edward III by CAS Hanwei (Photo by original owner Nathan Robinson).

My other XVIIIa Probably the best wall hanger I've ever handled. I think SBG forums gave this 5 stars and sold me on it. The Albrecht II hand and a half sword by CAS Hanwei

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
I bought this sword when it was known as the ATrim Maker's Mark Triple Fuller XIII over at Christian Fletcher's site. It became the AT1326 and can now be found at Tried and True Armory. I'm not sure that a XIII can be classified as a Bastard, though it does have some of the qualifications -

A grip just long enough to fit two hands - 7 inches
A shortish blade at 31 inches
It can be used fairly well with one hand, but really sings with two.

It is an amazing sword, one of Gus Trim's best designs. It is beautifully balanced and has the quality of feeling alive in your hands


I resemble this remark. It is an awesome sword indeed, I love mine. Everything a bastard should be and more! Big Grin





Mine has light antiquing on the furniture and very soon, will have some nice black onyx stones set into the pommel recesses.

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sword of unknown origin that I believe would fall into this category.

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec, 2012 10:33 am    Post subject: my 1st sword is a Darksword armory bastard         Reply with quote

I really like this sword..well balanced that it feels alive, can really chop stuff up with this and stab with the point. Not as pretty as some posted here but happy with it nonetheless..especially at the price


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec, 2012 11:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
Here's my contribution:

A&A Edward III (bastard in grip length, but a big son of a gun):


Albion Mercenary (used to own):


I have never really been into ornate swords but I have to hand it to you, that one is pretty appealing.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Edward the 3         Reply with quote

@ Christopher B That is a nice looking sword....I can sense that it exudes magical properties!
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Dec, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Albion's Talhoffer in their burnt orange.

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One year on ... anyone have any other bastard swords to show off?
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jan, 2014 9:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Already posted elsewhere but here you go. Albion Principe.

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