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Thomas McDonald
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Nov, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: ID assistance ..... Kris?         Reply with quote

A gentleman contacted me and asked for assistance in ID'ing this blade (see attached pics) !

I told him I thought it to be a Kris blade, but I have very little knowledge in these style weapons ?

Any information would be appreciated , Mac





I referred him to these 2 sites for comparison .....

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1533

http://www.antiqueswords.com/Asian_and_African_Edged_Weapons.htm

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Sam Barris




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PostPosted: Mon 08 Nov, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yep, that's a kris. They're primarily Indonesian. I was in Malaysia a few weeks ago and saw several for sale. That looks like a good blade. Usually they have ornately carved wooden hilts and scabbards as well.
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Nov, 2004 9:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks an interesting blade, hard to tell but may well be pamour too,
Some good info over on the ethnographic section at vikingsword.com

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002142.html

A link to a thread where Andrew W posted some pics of mine to aid in identification,
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Andrew Winston




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PostPosted: Fri 12 Nov, 2004 7:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I agree, Mac. That's a keris blade. I'm not nearly expert enough to determine whether it's Malay or Indonesian, but it does look nice. If you post it over on the EEWRS, there are some true experts there that will give you suprisingly detailed information based on just your photos.

Incidently, the term "kris" is generally used when referring to the larger, Moro weapons of this form from the Philipines, and "keris" (pronounced "kris" as well) refers to the Indo/Malay knives.

Lee, I'm embarrassed that I mispelled your name in my first post on that thread! I'll correct it now. Happy

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Lee O'Hagan




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PostPosted: Fri 12 Nov, 2004 8:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Andrew,
Nice to see you chap,
No worries on the name my friend,
Thanks again for all the help with the id,
Best,
Lee.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Nov, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My pleasure, Lee. Big Grin

Cheers,
Andrew

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