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Sean Manning




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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matt Easton wrote:
Sean, thanks for that. I have not seen that set of records before. In a way it raises more questions than it answers though unfortunately.

I actually might want to look at his sources myself, if they have been published (frustratingly, he makes it a bit hard to understand what a representative document said). When he has a note like London, Public Record Office, Miscellanea of the Chancery, C. 47/2/49 no. 37, is that to a file in the archives or a published edition?

For the Achaemenid research I'm doing, I want to make a point that who you count and how you count them matters. This is easier to see when we have actual records, not just narrative histories.

Kel Rekuta wrote:


More specifically Fiore says he will teach the sword without the buckler, by which we presume:

1- sword and buckler training was a common thing in his time
2- he's already taught you all the off hand techniques you need to know to apply them to bucklers, batons, hats and capes, whatever.

Although the trouble there is that if he taught any two weapon form, it didn't get into the manuscripts. The only paired weapons in Fiore are the two clubs and the staff and dagger, both of which are pedagogically after sword in one hand in the Getty and PD (but before in the BN and the Morgan). He doesn't even use the shield to defend when jousting.
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