Info Favorites Register Log in
myArmoury.com Discussion Forums

Forum index Memberlist Usergroups Spotlight Topics Search
Forum Index > Makers and Manufacturers Talk > The making of a Seax by Owen and Tod Reply to topic
This is a standard topic Go to page Previous  1, 2 
Author Message
Scott Kowalski




Location: Oak Lawn, IL USA
Joined: 24 Nov 2006

Posts: 818

Feedback score: None
PostPosted: Wed 23 Feb, 2011 3:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You are correct Owen and it is because of yourself and the other makers who do establish a rapport with the various museum curators that we the non-makers get to see some of these pieces for which I for one would like to thank you and the others who do this.

Enough of me hijacking the thread though. I do believe that it is about a seax?

I am looking forwards to seeing the finished project.

Chris Landwehr 10/10/49-1/1/09 My Mom
View user's profile Send private message
Owen Bush
Industry Professional



Location: london
Joined: 31 Aug 2007

Posts: 221

Feedback score: None
PostPosted: Wed 23 Feb, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

one of the enigmatic and legendary elements of patternwelding is the serpent in the steel and i have tried a few variations on this theme.
I am going to go for an element on this in this piece.
some kind of serpent or worm .....

this was my first attempt a gently undulating snake up the middle of a seax in 2006


I have tried various twisting serpents but never been happy with the results.

the wolfs tooth patterns I did recently can look serpentine and undulating


those patterns are a little too subtle and more like waves than snakes.

last year I had another go at this pattern and came up with this version of a snake , based on my memories of a pattern I saw in the british museum . This is the end of a monsterous seax (heptisax handled by Petr Florianek) and it would be hard to be more snakey than this. I am very proud of that seax . It is however imperfect in its manufacture havein some cold shuts between some coils....

However making it prompted me to re visit the sword in the BM that inspired all this snakey ness it is an amazing piece of rusty old metal.

on closer inspection you can see the undulating coils , not to mention the amazing spagetty twists in the edge pattern pieces that you can see right through!!

this is without doubt in my mind the serpent in the steel , conveluted ,writhing and undulating ...even menacing . I have done a few prictice pieces since heptisax and am hoping to get a better and more subtle result in this piece .
slightly less bling ...a little darker!!
A serpent in the steel of a seax!!!

forging soul into steel .

www.owenbush.co.uk the home of bushfire forge school of smithing .
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
R D Moore




PostPosted: Wed 23 Feb, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeremy V. Krause wrote:
To what era is this seax dated?


This typology posted by Jeroen Zuiderwijk contains a similar langsax (#68 at the top) so it could be from the around the 8th century and of Frankish design. Just my thoughts on this and I'm certainly no expert, but I understand the langsax evolved into shorter blades after around the 9th century.



 Attachment: 93.27 KB
[ Download ]

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation" ...Gen. Douglas Macarthur
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Scott Kowalski




Location: Oak Lawn, IL USA
Joined: 24 Nov 2006

Posts: 818

Feedback score: None
PostPosted: Wed 23 Feb, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Those are beautiful examples of your patternwelding Owen. I cannot wait to see how the serpent ends up looking on this project. That is also a very interesting pair of pictures of the sword from the BM. In the second picture you can see how someone could say there was a serpent in the blade. Thank you for posting them.
Chris Landwehr 10/10/49-1/1/09 My Mom
View user's profile Send private message
Matt Corbin




PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct, 2011 5:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Owen and Tod,

Have you guys made any progress on this project?

Not trying to to be a bother, just really want to see this completed Big Grin

“This was the age of heroes, some legendary, some historical . . . the misty borderland of history where fact and legend mingle.”
- R. Ewart Oakeshott
View user's profile Send private message
Richard Furrer
Industry Professional



Location: Sturgeon Bay, WI
Joined: 11 Jun 2004

Posts: 77

Feedback score: None
PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Owen,
Wonderful photos and I look forward to seeing the project unfold, er..rather, progress...unfolding the snake would be bad I assume...yes?

Ric

Ric Furrer
Sturgeon Bay, WI
www.doorcountyforgeworks.com
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website


Display posts from previous:   
Forum Index > Makers and Manufacturers Talk > The making of a Seax by Owen and Tod
Page 2 of 2 Reply to topic
Go to page Previous  1, 2 All times are GMT - 8 Hours

View previous topic :: View next topic
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum






All contents © Copyright 2003-2024 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum