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J.D. Crawford
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T. Hamilton
Location: United States Joined: 30 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I'd watch it.
"What we do in life echoes in eternity."
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Bryce Felperin
Location: San Jose, CA Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Well I noticed two things that run counter to current Hollywood movies. First the lead character is not some studly young boy actor for the teenage girl demographic. Also there doesn't appear to be any love interest in some scantily clad female warrior type for the young male demographic. Therefore it probably won't be marketed much and suck at the box office. I'll watch it though for the cool violence. ;-)
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David Huggins
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: Valhalla Rising |
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It's set during the Viking Age, 'OneEye' been a warrior who is in slavery, and the voyage ends up in North America where he becomes a saviour for the survivors...not at all like the appaling Hollywood 'Pathfinder' which was a very poor version of the original Finnish movie of the same title.
The Danish lead actor has appeared in the directors graphic violence 'Punisher' series,
best
Dave
and he who stands and sheds blood with us, shall be as a brother.
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J.D. Crawford
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David Sutton
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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It looks quite interesting, but I think its more of a film in the Seventh Seal mold rather than your standard historical movie if you get my meaning.
'Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all'
'To teach superstitions as truth is a most terrible thing'
Hypatia of Alexandria, c400AD
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Kirk Lee Spencer
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Valhalla Rising |
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David Huggins wrote: | ...The Danish lead actor has appeared in the directors graphic violence 'Punisher' series,
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He's also played the scout, Tristan, in "King Arthur," the bad guy with the bleeding eyes, La Chiffe, in "Casino Royale" and Draco in "Clash of the Titans."
ks
Two swords
Lit in Eden’s flame
One of iron and one of ink
To place within a bloody hand
One of God or one of man
Our souls to one of
Two eternities
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Boris R.
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i gathered that the "One Eye" is really Odin. and he has a gift of premonition, sort of blood-drenched visions thing. and he does not talk much. grim and determined. thats your Odin right there
Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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Ken Speed
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Bryce said, ".............. there doesn't appear to be any ........... scantily clad female..........." Well Heck, why do we want to watch it then?
Well judging from the trailer it looks violent enough for anybody who isn't a totally raging psychopath! When did you say it was going to be released? I can hardly wait!!!
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Vilkas V.
Location: norcal Joined: 10 Aug 2009
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Posted: Mon 12 Jul, 2010 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Finally, a movie that I might actually see in the theater. I'd see it just for the axe work.
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Kel Rekuta
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Posted: Tue 13 Jul, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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I found it online and have watched about half of it. It is extremely violent and frequently dream-like. Very odd movie. I'll have to find time to finish watching it.
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Micha Hofmann
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Posted: Tue 13 Jul, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I own this movie on DVD.
Watched it tired and hated it the first time.
Watched it again just after waking up and liked it very much.
It's a good movie, but not for everyone. Beautiful landscapes, interesting and weird charakters, a bit of an "artsy" look and short intermissions of brutal violence. A bit like a viking "The proposition" or maybe even a viking "Apocalypse Now" without the big battle scenes.
There's not much fighting in it, but I like the few minutes of it very much. There seem to be some liberties with historical accuracy (it's a movie after all), but the whole movie somehow "feels" very "viking".
Watch it if you're in the mood for something unconventional, but don't try to watch it as "light family entertainment".
Regards
Micha
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J.D. Crawford
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Finally got to watch this on pay-per-view cable. Yes, its a very strange arty movie with long slow sequences of scenery and imagery interspersed with brief periods of brutal violence. Definitely a Heart of Darkness / Apocolypse Now vibe. The main theme seems to be Paganism vs. Christianity, and maybe hypocracies in the latter, but I didn't really understand the details of all the imagery. While at first the mix of Viking and late medieval Gaelic weapons irked me, it soon becomes apparent that (without spoiling the plot) any realism of historic sequence, or even geography, or possibly even reality is irrelevant in this movie. I'm not sure whether I liked it or not.
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Very much an art film and this can be genius or just pretentious: I can't really say which. Sometimes one just doesn't get it or sometimes there really isn't anything to get except for some snobbish film buffs who pretend to get it and feel superior to the " peasants " who are not sophisticated enough to understand the film! A lot of the same can be said about a lot of Modern art.
The first half seemed to have a story and felt gritty and promising but I found the second half some sort of muddled message that I'm really not sure what the message is but suspect a bit of " White Man's " guilt versus nature or native peoples ?
Some unmentioned backstory where the main character may have been guilty of something or felt guilty about something he did in the past to the natives at some North American Viking colony ?
Won't get into any details to avoid spoilers.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Lin Robinson
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Micha Hofmann wrote: | I own this movie on DVD.
Watched it tired and hated it the first time.
Watched it again just after waking up and liked it very much.
It's a good movie, but not for everyone. Beautiful landscapes, interesting and weird charakters, a bit of an "artsy" look and short intermissions of brutal violence. A bit like a viking "The proposition" or maybe even a viking "Apocalypse Now" without the big battle scenes. |
I watched it and hated it and couldn't see watching it again. I thought it was too violent and I am not opposed to violence in movies, when it makes sense. This was, I thought, an extremely boring movie for the most part and there was no underlying story or character development, at least none that I could find.
I guess I am just one of those folks for whom this movie was not made!!
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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David Teague
Location: Anchorage, Alaska Joined: 25 Jan 2004
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Art film... long boring sections, the Norse get lost on the way to the Holy Land (and how) and just when I thought there was going to be a big pay off at the end... naaaaaaaw.
Hated it. Glad I got to watch in on net flixs for free.
Won't ever watch it again.
I will say, each person should watch it to make up their own mind.
Cheers,
David
This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.
Free Scholar/ Instructor Selohaar Fechtschule
The Historic Recrudescence Guild
"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou's sword art is with me; Thy poleaxe and Thy quarterstaff they comfort me."
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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David Teague wrote: | Art film... long boring sections, the Norse get lost on the way to the Holy Land (and how) and just when I thought there was going to be a big pay off at the end... naaaaaaaw.
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Like Bugs Bunny said in a cartoon " Must of taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque ".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TUwHTfOOU
I think once they get lost in the boat they all are dead already like the ending of " LOST " and the story no longer has to make any sense.
The sad sad thing seems to me that the Author/Director talks about spending 15 years or so on writing and getting the movie made. ( Well, I could be remembering the even duller, making of the film, " extras " wrong: I'm not playing the commentary again to find out. ).
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Moses Jones
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I bought it. I really liked it, but then again I have strange taste in movies apparently. I think 12 monkeys and Bubba Ho-Tep are two of the best movies ever made but I never see them on anyones top 100 list.
The movie is dirty, gritty and bloody. Some people think is is slow, but really the slow moments are to help absorb you into the moment and allow yourself to relax a bit after the gut wrenching violence.
I know the movie is available for free streaming if you have netflix.
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David Teague
Location: Anchorage, Alaska Joined: 25 Jan 2004
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Posted: Tue 04 Jan, 2011 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I like Bubba Ho-Tep, 12 Monkeys, Barton Fink and a bunch of other films that are not on the top 100, but this one... No.
Cheers,
David
This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.
Free Scholar/ Instructor Selohaar Fechtschule
The Historic Recrudescence Guild
"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou's sword art is with me; Thy poleaxe and Thy quarterstaff they comfort me."
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Wed 05 Jan, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Moses Jones wrote: | I bought it. I really liked it, but then again I have strange taste in movies apparently. I think 12 monkeys and Bubba Ho-Tep are two of the best movies ever made but I never see them on anyones top 100 list.
The movie is dirty, gritty and bloody. Some people think is is slow, but really the slow moments are to help absorb you into the moment and allow yourself to relax a bit after the gut wrenching violence.
I know the movie is available for free streaming if you have netflix. |
The main actor has presence and I agree amd liked it up to the point when they are on the ship and lost and where the story breaks down in " normal " logic.
This is what is disappointing to me since the mystery of the main character promises so much that the film needed something strong or surprising but it turned into a dream like shamble towards the end.
I'm not saying that the film is worthless but it's the kind of film where one can find meaning if one searches for it but it's not anything one can easily pin down: Is it an art film I don't understand or an art film with nothing there to understand ?
Since Valhalla is in the title it does make me think that in structure this film can have meaning if one looks at it the same way a dream seems to make sense when one is in it but the logic of the dream break down in the light of day when one tries to remember it ! The second half is either a dream or a walk in Valhalla before the dead realize they are dead .... the ending may mean that the main character SPOILER ALERT decides to not fight and lets himself be killed because he knows that there is no point since he is already dead and at the end of his journey to the next world and being " officially killed " is the way in to the next World
Now, is this the intent of the author of the film or just like a Rorschach Test I'm seeing something in the ink blob coming from me rather than the author ? A lot of abstract art, if it has any meaning at all, comes from the viewer rather than the genius of the maker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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