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Jeremiah Swanger




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PostPosted: Sat 28 May, 2011 1:34 am    Post subject: Good source of Korean Jingum?         Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Long-time lurker, occasional poster (a leftover from SFI, no less).

My interest is primarily in European swords-- Oakeshott's Type XVIIIb is my personal favorite...

... but I've recently taken an interest in Haidong Gumdo (the Korean sword art). I want to know if anyone knows a good source of Korean Jingum (kind of like a Japanese Katana, but slightly-different geometry).

They seem to be very under-represented on the internet.... (oh yeah, I have a Korean girlfriend...)

"Rhaegar fought nobly.
Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."

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PostPosted: Sat 28 May, 2011 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Good source of Korean Jingum?         Reply with quote

You may try to look for martial art swords.

http://www.martialartswords.com

Jeremiah Swanger wrote:
Hi everyone,

Long-time lurker, occasional poster (a leftover from SFI, no less).

My interest is primarily in European swords-- Oakeshott's Type XVIIIb is my personal favorite...

... but I've recently taken an interest in Haidong Gumdo (the Korean sword art). I want to know if anyone knows a good source of Korean Jingum (kind of like a Japanese Katana, but slightly-different geometry).

They seem to be very under-represented on the internet.... (oh yeah, I have a Korean girlfriend...)

Ancient Combat Association —http://www.acahk.org
Realistic Sparring Weapons — http://www.rsw.com.hk
Nightstalkers — http://www.nightstalkers.com.hk
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PostPosted: Sat 28 May, 2011 3:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

MAS as noted above are known as a good quality supplier, and have prices to match the quality.

Munetoshi has some much cheaper ones, likely of lesser quality (iirc, http://www.swordnarmory.com/ sells these).

ZhiSword does a Korean sword, http://www.zhisword.com/index.php?main_page=p...cts_id=836 complete with Korean-style mounts (don't know about the blade geometry). AFAIK, Haidong Gumdo uses Japanese-style mounts, so perhaps highly unsuitable even if highly Korean.

"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 May, 2011 4:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kris Cutlery, great bang for your buck, though it's not much of a looker.

http://www.kriscutlery.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?S...anandother

Here's the review of the prototype a while back. Nowadays there's no ugly wire-brushed fake hamon, just a clean monosteel blade. Bare bones, but a solid sword.

http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?...hread=9857
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PostPosted: Sat 28 May, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And for a pretty Korean sword, with historically authentic style of mounts and blade geometry, you could always see if you can find Hanwei's Korean Cloud Sword. (Again, Korean-style mounts, not Japanese style, so probably unsuitable for Haidong Gumdo.) Unridged blade (so, samgakdo in modern terminology).

These are discontinued, but some retailers still have them.

"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May, 2011 9:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Timo Nieminen wrote:
And for a pretty Korean sword, with historically authentic style of mounts and blade geometry, you could always see if you can find Hanwei's Korean Cloud Sword. (Again, Korean-style mounts, not Japanese style, so probably unsuitable for Haidong Gumdo.) Unridged blade (so, samgakdo in modern terminology).

These are discontinued, but some retailers still have them.


Hi Timo,

Yeah, I've had a look at the "Cloud" sword. I honestly didn't know that those were considered authentic mounts-- I think some retailers putting it under the "fantasy" category didn't help. I think I'll definitely need to take a closer look at it.

I also had a look at that Martial Arts website, and liked what I saw. In fact, I'm getting even more interested now, because there is a unique variety of features, such as one blade that is flat on one side of the cross-section, but oval on the other.

"Rhaegar fought nobly.
Rhaegar fought valiantly.
Rhaegar fought honorably.
And Rhaegar died."

- G.R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire
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PostPosted: Tue 31 May, 2011 2:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeremiah Swanger wrote:

Yeah, I've had a look at the "Cloud" sword. I honestly didn't know that those were considered authentic mounts-- I think some retailers putting it under the "fantasy" category didn't help. I think I'll definitely need to take a closer look at it.


For some historical examples to compare it with, one of the best selections was in the Macao Museum of Art's History of Steel in Eastern Asia exhibition. See, in particular, items 117 to 127.

Some more historical Korean swords online at:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v333/areaga...ds%202008/

http://www.swordsofkorea.com/swords.htm

"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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