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Do you want one or maybe own one?
Yes, yes I do.
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Nope, I don't.
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Maybe, one day.
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jun, 2010 3:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is that the one which blade is pattern welded (the remains of it anyway)???
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Dan Dickinson
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jun, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here are a few more of one of my favorite pommel types.
As far as having replicas, I've got a couple in progress.
I hope this helps,
Dan






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Sam Gordon Campbell




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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jun, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Greg, Ah, I've been looking for a shot from that angle, cheers.
Michael, I think a few of those other things in the display case are on the cards haha
Dan, Whoa, cool, those are very helpful, I'll have to send those off to the smith I'm currently in negotiations with.
The more I see, the more I want one Laughing Out Loud

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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Tue 29 Jun, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Found this doing an unrelated search of images from the Maciejowski Bible. The knight with the sword raised high above his head, near the centre of the image, has a pommel that looks like a Type D.

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PostPosted: Fri 13 May, 2011 4:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just wondering if there have been any recent finds or repro's that have been discovered?
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May, 2011 12:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't think this one has been shown. It is said to reside at the Musee D'Armes and have a blade of 37.4"


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PostPosted: Sun 15 May, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
I don't think this one has been shown. It is said to reside at the Musee D'Armes and have a blade of 37.4"


Ah, nice find Mr. Crawford.
Here's a an interesting pommel that may be one.



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PostPosted: Wed 18 May, 2011 2:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This sword is currently housed in Nuremburg's Kaiserburg-Museum, inv. no. W2445, on loan from the city (Dan posted Geibig's photos and drawings of this sword above, Kat. nr. 52):





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PostPosted: Wed 18 May, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And here's a few more of the DHM's W880 (the inspiration for Albion's Ritter, posted above) - my apologies for the poor photo quality.















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PostPosted: Wed 18 May, 2011 8:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Whoa.
Thanks C.L., those are some awesome photos.
I want one more and more Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Wed 18 May, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sam Gordon Campbell wrote:
Whoa.
Thanks C.L., those are some awesome photos.
I want one more and more Laughing Out Loud


Thanks! I wish that I had more to give - unfortunately, the conditions in the DHM (as is the case in so many museums) aren't especially well suited to photography, macro or otherwise, and the remainder of the photos I took of this sword didn't turn out terribly well. The DHM unfortunately doesn't display much of its substantial holdings, but this single case encloses one of the finest high medieval collections I've ever seen. I'm hoping to return there in a few months' time, and will try to secure some better photos - I'll be certain to post them here if I do.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 May, 2011 7:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for this thread and all the photos. It seems like there is a definite family of very similar long bladed Xa/XI swords with similar D pommels and type 1 and 2 crosses. One might suppose they were all made by the same workshop, cranking out different versions of the same sword over the span of several (?) decades in the 13th century.

Based on this notion, I just commissioned a new sword based on a combination of features I found interesting from this thread. With some luck we'll be able to post some pictures here before the end of the year.

Bringing history to life is fun!

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan, I am very interested in the swords you posted above, particularly the first one. It has odd proportions, very different from the typical very long blade and short grip. As you mentioned making replicas of some of these, I thought I would ask, do you have any measurements you can share? I would like to do a replica of one of these short-bladed/long-gripped swords but I find the proportions a little confusing.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's another one.


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jul, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
Based on this notion, I just commissioned a new sword based on a combination of features I found interesting from this thread. With some luck we'll be able to post some pictures here before the end of the year.


This took a little longer than expected, but looks like the project will be coming together soon. Here's a teaser from the A&A workshop.

(I believe the hilt furniture will be mounted on a somewhat longer blade. Wink )



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PostPosted: Fri 02 May, 2014 5:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I just came across this thread and figured I would add what I have. An older model MRL/Del Tin. I re-did the handle in twisted wire.




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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb, 2016 3:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For a short time I had an Albion Ritter in my hands, so took some photos to compare it with my A&A D-pommel sword. Here they are together:


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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dang! That A&A sword is huge! The Ritter is a big sword but just looks so small next to it... Great stuff JD!
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Feb, 2016 4:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tim Lison wrote:
Dang! That A&A sword is huge! The Ritter is a big sword but just looks so small next to it... Great stuff JD!


These were definitely long blades Tim, like your recent XI. I'd like to have a more accurate version of the original 'Ritter': 38" blade.
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