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Martin Erben
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Posted: Mon 08 Mar, 2010 9:34 am Post subject: What kind of dagger is this? |
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Hello
A few minutes ago, I found a picture of Jörg von Frundsberg (a very important Landsknecht leader in german history) and his son from his biography from 1572, and I recognized, that his dagger was strange....
I can't imagine, how the pommel would look in 3D and I'm also confused about the quillon/rondel. Is it maybe a form of katzbalger/short-sword? Does anyone have pictures of originals with similar grip configuration? What would the blade look like?
Her's a link to the picture: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dat...0804074422
Thank you in advance
Martin Ruben Erben
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Craig Peters
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Posted: Mon 08 Mar, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: |
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If you're referring to the item hanging from the belt of the left figure, I doubt it's a dagger. It looks like a sword with a waisted grip to me, but its hard to say because the image is so poor. I suppose it could also be something like a rondel, but the disk pommel does not belong on it, which is what leads me to think it's a sword being represented.
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Chad Arnow
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Posted: Mon 08 Mar, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Craig Peters wrote: | If you're referring to the item hanging from the belt of the left figure, I doubt it's a dagger. It looks like a sword with a waisted grip to me, but its hard to say because the image is so poor. I suppose it could also be something like a rondel, but the disk pommel does not belong on it, which is what leads me to think it's a sword being represented. |
Keep in mind that in some eras, rondel daggers may have a pommel or wheel or fishtail or other form.
That said, I doubt we're looking at a dagger here, too.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Sean Flynt
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