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Chad Arnow
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A. Spanjer wrote:
Blush I'm sorry. I normally use online translation tools, I don't know why it didn't occur to me to use them this time...


Still, are you sure that it's not the museum (as opposed to whoever assembled the sword) that's mistaken?


As far as the sword posted by Mr. Stoica goes, it looks to me like it was damaged, not made that way.


Well, Hermann Historica is a respected seller of antiques and I assume their description is based in no small part on the experience of their staff. So that's a factor. Perhaps they've seen actual evidence of reassembly.

Also, there are numerous examples of similar swords (some with basically identical guards) that are oriented as we expect.

And, this sword post-dates the images I've found so far; I haven't seen any mid-16th century swords in art with this feature.

I guess I can't be sure that it was reassembled wrong, but there's more evidence in that direction than others.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
A. Spanjer wrote:
Blush I'm sorry. I normally use online translation tools, I don't know why it didn't occur to me to use them this time...


Still, are you sure that it's not the museum (as opposed to whoever assembled the sword) that's mistaken?


As far as the sword posted by Mr. Stoica goes, it looks to me like it was damaged, not made that way.


Well, Hermann Historica is a respected seller of antiques and I assume their description is based in no small part on the experience of their staff. So that's a factor. Perhaps they've seen actual evidence of reassembly.

Also, there are numerous examples of similar swords (some with basically identical guards) that are oriented as we expect.

And, this sword post-dates the images I've found so far; I haven't seen any mid-16th century swords in art with this feature.

I guess I can't be sure that it was reassembled wrong, but there's more evidence in that direction than others.



Ok, I stand corrected. Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A. Spanjer wrote:

Ok, I stand corrected. Happy


Well, I could well be wrong. Happy I'd love to find examples of these weird swords, as they're found in art enough times and from a span of time that makes me think there could be something to the design.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I seem to recall that I have seen some Swiss/Landsknecht basalard type hilted swords with guards sloping away from the blade. One similar is pictured under the Makers and Manufacturers forum right now. Wonder if he made it based on an existing example. While slight, the bend back to the hand is there nonetheless.
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