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Matt Easton
Location: Surrey, UK. Joined: 30 Jun 2004
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Reinier van Noort
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Hi Matt,
Great Resource! One for the Bookmarks!
Still not having an account on your forums, I would like to point you at this:
http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/petter/index.html
They have larger scans of the images of Petter, and they have the original text pages as well (which of course is way more valuable than a translation  ).
The linked site has more manuscripts (linked) here:
http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/
But you likely have those (and possibly this site itself) already on your list!
See you soon, and don't forget; If wars were won by feasting, or victory by song...
School voor Historische Schermkunsten
www.bruchius.com
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Hey Matt,
Great ressource indeed!
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Cheers,
Julien
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David E. Farrell
Location: Evanston, IL Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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cool - thanks!
one little nit to pick:
De Arte Luctandi - Florius (Fiore) c.1410 - um, as far as I have read (unless something very recent has changed this), most Fiore researchers feel this was produced long after Fiore's time (based on the artwork and a few other factors). Possibly post 1450, and closer to Vadi's works.
I'd be interested to find out if this view has changed.
AKA: 'Sparky' (so I don't need to explain later  )
For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother
-- King Henry, Henry V, William Shakespeare
Before I came here I was confused about this subject. Having listened to your lecture I am still confused... but on a higher level.
-- Enrico Fermi
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Matt Easton
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David E. Farrell
Location: Evanston, IL Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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| Matt Easton wrote: | Hello, I am a Fiore researcher, as you'll find out on our website. The armour shown in 'Florius' is certainly not from 1450, it is early-15thC.
Nobody knows the date of the manuscript yet and only 3 people I know of have studied the manuscript 'in the flesh'.
Regards,
Matt
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fair enough - I went back and read the SFI thread from shortly after this 'came to light'.
AKA: 'Sparky' (so I don't need to explain later )
For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother
-- King Henry, Henry V, William Shakespeare
Before I came here I was confused about this subject. Having listened to your lecture I am still confused... but on a higher level.
-- Enrico Fermi
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Dariusz Dario T. W
Location: obamaland Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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gentlemen,
I have a question - any of these manuals listed in those two forums deal with training for mounted combat - lance, sword, sabre etc?
by the way some wonderful art and print making!
"veni, vidi, Deus vincit"
Jan Sobieski, Rex Poloniae et Dux Lithuaniae
http://dariocaballeros.blogspot.com/
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David E. Farrell
Location: Evanston, IL Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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| Dariusz Dario T. W wrote: | gentlemen,
I have a question - any of these manuals listed in those two forums deal with training for mounted combat - lance, sword, sabre etc?
by the way some wonderful art and print making! |
The treatises by Fiore Dei Liberi (at least the Pissani-Dossi/Novati, Getty and Florius) deal with mounted combat as well as unmounted, armoured and unarmoured. This would be from an early 15th C Italian tradition. I think a few of the German treatises do as well (Paulus Kal springs to mind), but I am not very familiar with them, to be honest.
AKA: 'Sparky' (so I don't need to explain later )
For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother
-- King Henry, Henry V, William Shakespeare
Before I came here I was confused about this subject. Having listened to your lecture I am still confused... but on a higher level.
-- Enrico Fermi
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Matt Easton
Location: Surrey, UK. Joined: 30 Jun 2004
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This is a standard topic