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Luka Borscak
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 Posted: Sat 06 Dec, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: Anglo Saxon and Norse names |
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Does anybody have a list of old Norse and Anglo Saxon names with their meanings? And is the meaning of a name Uthred or Uhtred known? Thank you in advance.
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Gavin Kisebach
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Al Muckart
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| Posted: Sat 06 Dec, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Luka,
Be very careful with information from any source to do with the meaning of names for babies. They are all, print or electronic, of very dubious usefulness and rarely if ever contain any bibliographic data or other means for cross checking the accuracy of their claims. I'm not saying what that site says is going to be wrong, but there is a good chance it is, and there's no way of checking based on the information they supply.
You are much better off with the sources Gavin listed, they are compiled by actual experts in the field of onomastics.
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Al.
http://wherearetheelves.net
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Luka Borscak
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You are right Al, I know I can't really believe such sources but it was the only explanation of the name Uthred or Uhtred I found. Few minutes ago I found an Old English online dictionary and it says that "uht" means twilight, dusk, dawn, early morning, so it could have something to do with this. And "red2 or "raed" in the second part of the name should be counsel or advice as in many old germanic names such as Ethelraed or something similar... But when you put it together it doesn't really makes much sense. Maybe "The one who rely on the dawn"? 
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Tim May
Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: 12 Nov 2006
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Regia Algorum has a great site:
http://www.regia.org/members/names.htm
Also, the book "The English Elite in 1066" by Don Henson has a great catalogue of important persons in A-S England.
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Shamsi Modarai
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Germanic and Anglo-Saxon names very often consist of two parts, so it is definitely more likely that Uht is the first part and red or raed is the second, making the name consist of two words rather that just one. 
Uhtred as meaning "dawn-counsel" could make sense. There is an Old English word uhtcearu which means "dawn-care" or "morning-sorrow". I'm still not sure if "dawn-counsel" is the exact meaning of Uthred, but its late and that's all I've got in me at the moment.
Wa biš žam že sceal of langože leofes abidan.
~ The Wife's Lament
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Luka Borscak
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Thank you Shamsi.
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Xan Stepp
Location: Ithaca, NY Joined: 19 Dec 2008
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After a quick internet search I found this site:
http://www.halfdan.is/vestur/nofn.htm
I speak Icelandic and read Old Norse, so I can attest that the information is fairly accurate, judging from the brief look I gave the site. Icelandic names still preserve many of the pre-Conversion naming traditions, but some names are clearly Christian in derivation. Additionally, while modern Icelandic is surprisingly close to Old Norse, there are some differences in spelling conventions, so if you're trying to be really authentic, some of the names might have been spelled differently in Old Norse. However, the site is fairly good overall.
Deyr fé, deyja fręndur
deyr sjįlfur iš sama;
en oršstķr deyr aldregi
hveim er sér góšan getur.
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This is a standard topic