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Sa'ar Nudel
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| Bram Verbeek wrote: | | When new, the sun might have reflected directly into the wearer's eyes from those metal flaps underneath, if they had been above the eyes, it might have been better |
Correct, but this visor was more likely blackened, as most field armour was.
Curator of Beit Ussishkin, regional nature & history museum, Upper Galilee.
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Michael B.
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JE Sarge
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+1 on it looking like an inexperienced smith's experiment gone awry and being an incomplete piece.
+5 on it being a Commander Cody or Cybermen helm.
+10 on it being Tony Stark's never-before-seen Mark 0 suit helmet. 
J.E. Sarge
Crusader Monk Sword Scabbards and Customizations
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"But lack of documentation, especially for such early times, is not to be considered as evidence of non-existance." - Ewart Oakeshott
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Milla-Mari Valkeasuo
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Sam Gordon Campbell
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Sorry, but someone had to do it 
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JE Sarge
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I laughed like hell at this. 
J.E. Sarge
Crusader Monk Sword Scabbards and Customizations
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"But lack of documentation, especially for such early times, is not to be considered as evidence of non-existance." - Ewart Oakeshott
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Sa'ar Nudel
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Check these helmets I found in a famous Polish book (Stara Bron). There is one with very similar bottom eyelids and general appearance, and the central helmet among the three. They are entitled a 16th century Toten-Kopf.
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Curator of Beit Ussishkin, regional nature & history museum, Upper Galilee.
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JE Sarge
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The last helmet is bordering on fitting the warrior depicted below perfectly :
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J.E. Sarge
Crusader Monk Sword Scabbards and Customizations
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"But lack of documentation, especially for such early times, is not to be considered as evidence of non-existance." - Ewart Oakeshott
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I can see the strategy involed with these helms...make your opponent laugh so hard he never sees the big mace coming at his face. Deadly effective and only used by the most ruthless of medieval mercenaries, the ones with the evil blackened hearts and the vicious desire to kill. It was the death of honorable warfare.
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Sam Gordon Campbell
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| JE Sarge wrote: | | The last helmet is bordering on fitting the warrior depicted below perfectly : |
Nice one.
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Chad Arnow
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Thanks to those who posted serious info. 
I would think something in the Landzeughaus would not be a funerary piece, as their collection is basically a storehouse of town-supplied armour. But I would be wrong.
ChadA
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Milla-Mari Valkeasuo
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I laughed like hell at this. |
Oh dear, I'm a very newbie on armor
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Have visited the Landzeughaus on two occasions, but don't recall this specific helmet. However, I do recall seeing many pieces that were probably mismatched by museum employees in fairly recent times. My believe is this helmet, during its working time, lost the original visor and was mated up with the one in question. This was probably a common practice during the heyday of town armories with their huge stockpile of munitions armor. The two piece skull and overall functional (cheap) appearance indicates this was not intended to a "work of art." One size fits all does not appear to be a modern concept.
Thank goodness the people of Graz had the foresight to save common armor pieces such as this while other towns were recycling like items by the hundreds of thousands.
Also do not recall seeing any funerary helmet in the armory. As with Chad, I could be wrong.
BTW: Am sure that the majority of our members realize this site is a wonderful resource to be appreciated and never taken for granted. Wish such a thing existed thirty years ago!
Regards,
Dan
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