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Anders Nilsson




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PostPosted: Thu 08 May, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: How to fasten gothic armour         Reply with quote

Hello

I recently bought a custommade suit of Gothic armour. It´s measuremade and fits quite well.

My questions is regarding the legpieces.
As for now I attach them to a waistbelt, since I have found no other sources on how to fasten them.
A friend of mine is arguing that I should lace them to my hoses.
That could probably work since I lace the arms to the doublet. But I´m not convinced. I still think that a waistbelt is the way to go.
Anyone that knows anything on the subject?

Here is a pic of the suit. Sorry ´bout the bad quality

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PostPosted: Thu 08 May, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A waist belt can work but can also be uncomfortable for longer periods of wear also the traditional method seems to have been to use a pourpoint which is a vest and distributes the weight of the leg around over the entire upper body.

Here is an example from Revival Clothing:http://www.revivalclothing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=39

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PostPosted: Thu 08 May, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That seems to work.
As long as the wieght is suspended over the waist. I dont belive to lace them to the hoses.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 May, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
A waist belt can work but can also be uncomfortable for longer periods of wear also the traditional method seems to have been to use a pourpoint which is a vest and distributes the weight of the leg around over the entire upper body.

Here is an example from Revival Clothing:http://www.revivalclothing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=39


For the 14th century, a pourpoint may be correct. As this is a gothic (15th century) harness, a proper 15th century arming doublet should be better. Both arm and leg harnesses can be laced to the points on the doublet.

Revival has an Agincourt arming doublet. Historic Enterprises makes a nice arming doublet, too.

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PostPosted: Thu 08 May, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I know that I use a belt to suspend my gambeson cuisse and a suspender to hold up the belt. I wonder if this was ever really used back then as a way to hold up heavy leg armor. A light doublet maybe the recorded way of doing this, but I still wonder if others were also used.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 May, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The proper way is to get a fitted arming doublet and point the legs to that. A belt can work, but it really isn't great because it can shift, even if its tight. It also isn't very comfortable. An arming doublet allows the weight to be better distributed over the hips and torso. Definately don't point them to the hose, unless if you like exposing yourself on a regular basis... and if you do, don't tell us. Happy

By the way, I second the recommendation of the Revival Clothing arming cotte.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 May, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hmm - i have a Arming doublet and a pourpoint and i was considering another approach.

My pourpoint, is more or less made to keep my hose up, while my Arming doublet, was meant for armour.

my idea, was to mount my brigandine, arm harness and in the future a mail skirt to the arming doublet

and then wear my pourpoint underneath it, to mount my hose and future leg armour on those.

the general idea, was to keep my upper body more mobile, by not having my arming doublet locked to a fixed position (ie. locked to my legs) while my pourpoint would do its trick on the more stationary legs

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