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Michael S. Rivet
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 Posted: Sun 23 Mar, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: Request for images |
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Anyone have either of these on their hard drive?
a467 Wallace Collection
Metropolitan Museum Inventory number 26.259.2
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sun 23 Mar, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Request for images |
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| Michael S. Rivet wrote: | Anyone have either of these on their hard drive?
a467 Wallace Collection
Metropolitan Museum Inventory number 26.259.2 |
We don't all have the catalogue numbers memorized, so could you help us out by giving us a brief description of what they are? 
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Michael S. Rivet
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| Posted: Sun 23 Mar, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Would if I knew! They're mentioned in passing in The Sword in the Age of Chivalry. The Met example is listed on page 72 in footnote 44 as an example of a Type XVIIIc. The Wallace example is listed as an example of an XVIIId. I was hoping that the Wallace Catalogue, at least, was sorted by inventory number. Otherwise, no idea how to narrow the search.
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Nathan Robinson
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a.467 is not photographed in the 1962 Wallace Catalogs.
A467 SWORD
Heavy wheel POMMEL with flat faces and chamfered rim; horizontally recurved QUILLONS, circular in section and widening at the ends; leather-bound grip (modern). The two-edged BLADE of flat diamond section, stiff and tapering. Maker's mark on both faces, 9 (23.0) from the hilt.
L. 36 1/8 (91.7); W. 1 3/8 (3.5); Diam. of Pommel 1 3/4 (4.5); Wt. 3:2 (1.405)
German, early XVIth century
Gazette des Beaux-Arts XXIV (May 1868), p. 417; De Beaumont Catalog, No. 4 and Pl. 1; Viollet-le-Duc V, 390-3
Provenance: Comte de Nieuwerkerke
The mark is akin to that used by Munich swordsmiths Christoph I and II Stantler. Viollet-le-Duc's ascription to Verdun was probably suggested by the resemblance of the mark to the double cross of Lorraine.
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Chad Arnow
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Dan Dickinson
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Well Chad, I'm not sure if the Met example is the one he's looking for, but I certainly would appreciate any pics of the piece you posted.
thanks,
Dan
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Chad Arnow
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| Dan Dickinson wrote: | Well Chad, I'm not sure if the Met example is the one he's looking for, but I certainly would appreciate any pics of the piece you posted.
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That's from our Type XVIII spotlight, so there's a little more info on it there. I don't have any more pics handy than that one (that I know of). I may have more somewhere, but my books and scanner are all boxed up, since the flooding in the Midwest invaded our basement. It may be weeks (or more) before I have everything back to where it needs to be and easily accessible.
This sword is the same one MRL replicated as the Arbedo. It could be called a Type XVIIIa depending on which version of Oakeshott's Type XVIII typology you use.
Here's a pic lifted from another thread:
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Dan Dickinson
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Thanks Chad, I have the ones from the article and from Records, but not any other photos, though I'm sure other people have taken pics of it in the Met. If anyone does have photos, I'd love to see them.
Thanks,
Dan
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Chad Arnow
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| Dan Dickinson wrote: | Thanks Chad, I have the ones from the article and from Records, but not any other photos, though I'm sure other people have taken pics of it in the Met. If anyone does have photos, I'd love to see them.
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I have almost 500 pics from my visit to the Met museum last year and that sword is not among them. I don't remember it being on display.
Of course, Michael may be talking about this other sword from the Met:
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Sorry about the quality of the pic.
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Merv Cannon
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| Posted: Mon 24 Mar, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Met Sword |
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Hi Chad.....Hope you don't mind but I scrubbed it up a bit.......
Cheers
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Mon 24 Mar, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Met Sword |
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| Merv Cannon wrote: | Hi Chad.....Hope you don't mind but I scrubbed it up a bit.......
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I don't mind at all. I have a pretty good pic of the hilt but the full-length shots didn't want to turn out.
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