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Eric R





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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Attaching flanges on a mace?         Reply with quote

Hello,

How did they used to attach the flanges on maces in Europe? Did they cut slots? Did they use rivets?
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Attaching flanges on a mace?         Reply with quote

Eric R wrote:
Hello,

How did they used to attach the flanges on maces in Europe? Did they cut slots? Did they use rivets?


I would say forge welded, maybe through slots.

the two rebnaissance one I could see were atatched flawlessly, almost misteriously, so I assume a perfect forge weld.

BTW, they were very light, two wonderfully carved hollow tubes with exquisitly executed flanges.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Could they be cast? Maybe then ground to finish? Just a passing thought.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Maces         Reply with quote

Evenin folks

The mace flanges are usually keyed into a slot and sometmes copper brazed into place. Those that seem to be intregal to the shaft would have to have been forged or stock removal and neither is a particularly effiecent construction method. The small style of early mace head are forged but these consist of a limited number of spikes or slim flages that would have been cut or forged from a block.

The gothic style of flanged mace is almost always separate flanges added to a core shaft.

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Michael Ekelmann




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PostPosted: Mon 13 Aug, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Weren't some of the earlier maces found, circa 9-12th century, cast bronze? Though, IIRC, most of those were spiked or knobbed, rather than flanged. How would s smith go about forgewelding something like a mace?
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Aug, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some flanged maces seem to have been made by "stock removal" The flanges aren't added, the hollows are cut away.
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