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Kai Lawson
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While I'm not counting out the option for it to be actually medieval, if the boots are indeed leather, the sword, tall boots and rowel spurs make me thing 16th-17th century, not medieval. Still a really cool find though!
"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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Paul Hansen
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| Posted: Thu 12 Nov, 2020 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Craig Johnson wrote: | | Very nice bronze age sword find. Pretty incredible patina on the hilt. These swords are interesting and I am not sure I agree that a few bubbles in the casting dictate it was ceremonial. |
Really nice indeed! And I fully agree with you, making a casting without bubbles is pretty hard. Here at least the surface seems smooth. How many cavities one needs to render a sword unusable, no idea, but I'd guess that then they would show up at the surface as well.
But for some reason some archeologists stick to a "bronze swords are not weapons" theory which, I think, is absolute bollocks...
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Craig Johnson
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| Paul Hansen wrote: | | Craig Johnson wrote: | | Very nice bronze age sword find. Pretty incredible patina on the hilt. These swords are interesting and I am not sure I agree that a few bubbles in the casting dictate it was ceremonial. |
Really nice indeed! And I fully agree with you, making a casting without bubbles is pretty hard. Here at least the surface seems smooth. How many cavities one needs to render a sword unusable, no idea, but I'd guess that then they would show up at the surface as well.
But for some reason some archeologists stick to a "bronze swords are not weapons" theory which, I think, is absolute bollocks... |
I totally agree Paul, these were definitely weapons of status, but weapons.
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Anthony Clipsom
Location: YORKSHIRE, UK Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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| Kai Lawson wrote: | | While I'm not counting out the option for it to be actually medieval, if the boots are indeed leather, the sword, tall boots and rowel spurs make me thing 16th-17th century, not medieval. Still a really cool find though! |
The article does say 16th century, which may be considered the late Middle Ages in that part of Lithuania.
Anthony Clipsom
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Iagoba Ferreira
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Craig Johnson
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HI Iagoba
That is very cool. I had not heard of this find either. It has some interesting pieces. I will have to translate some of the descriptions or at least an app will :-) Thanks for sharing.
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Paul Hansen
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| Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2021 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Very Cool Find! |
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For some reason neither of those links work for me... 
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Craig Johnson
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Craig Johnson
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Not a weapon or armor but some info on how the warriors in Uppsala are buried. Interesting and quite comfortable I imagine.
Warrior's feather bed
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Craig Johnson
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Bartek Strojek
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Sword with scabbard, belt and two knives attached to the belt found near Olsztyn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3YiVctOjkw
Unfortunately not much useful info right now, no data about dimensions, no context, no good pictures, or whatever but still very cool.
Sword looks XIIIa-ish, if I had to guess?
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Paul Hansen
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| Posted: Sun 25 Apr, 2021 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Iron Age Hill Fort Find |
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I'm not a big fan of metal detector enthousiasts digging up known archeological sites... 
But the "ritual killing" of weapons seems a quite undisputed phenomenon (among archeologists) in Iron Age Europe.
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Craig Johnson
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| Posted: Mon 26 Apr, 2021 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Iron Age Hill Fort Find |
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| Paul Hansen wrote: |
I'm not a big fan of metal detector enthousiasts digging up known archeological sites... |
I agree Paul. I think the whole thought of how we approach artifacts from the past could use a major rethink and adjustment in our minds. Sadly we do not have the power to change such things and I hope the concepts of reporting such finds and the recording and conservation of them is the focus rather than the treasure hunt aspect which loses all the context and knowledge one can gain from such finds.
Craig
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Craig Johnson
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| Posted: Wed 12 May, 2021 4:28 am Post subject: Battle casualties 1491 |
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This is an interesting report on a find at Rennes from 1491
Excavation article
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Anthony Clipsom
Location: YORKSHIRE, UK Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Jeremy V. Krause
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I'm not sure either but, if authentic, would be a pretty huge discovery.
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Blaz Berlec
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Anthony Clipsom
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| Blaz Berlec wrote: | | Ireland sure has some unique conditions for preserving artefacts in ground. If it was waterlogged and in anaerobic condition, I don't see why it couldn't have survived more or less intact - they found intact wooden kegs with butter inside from Bronze age! |
Indeed. A visit to the National Museum in Dublin reveals a remarkable collection of bog finds. One thing that survives very badly in bogs, however, is iron. The report implies there isn't an identified find spot as yet, nor does it clarify how the shirt was dated. I trust the technical skill of the National Museum to sort this out, however, so look forward to further reports.
Anthony Clipsom
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Matthew Amt
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No. The entire article is an embarrassingly perfect example of how NOT to identify "old things" (I refuse to call it an "artifact") that people bring in from some vague place. Apparently there was even a recent reenactment on the alleged find site just a few weeks ago, which corresponds frighteningly well with the level of corrosion (or "preservation", if you insist), as well as the use of BUTTED RINGS.
Now, I won't claim that it is "new", since a lot of us were making short-sleeved butted mailshirts back in the 1980s. And this one is clearly not one of the more recent riveted ones made in India, or the over-flattened joints for the rivets would be clearly visible.
For pity's sake, folks, this thing isn't even EIGHTY years old, much less 800.
Matthew
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