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Hugo Voisine
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| Quote: | Exceptions made for "blank-only" swords intended for mock combat, which have blunt points and edges.
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Well, you know, I think you should not do an exception for them. Blunt swords are still dangerous if used carelessly. More than an unloaded gun. But overall I agree. 
In this case, as someone else said, since it was clear that it wasn't an accident, safety guidelines about correct sword handling won't have helped much. Doesn't mean of course there's no need for such guidelines in everyday situations.
I would add one more rule : don't let inexperienced people handle your swords during a Christmas party. It's generally a bad idea to have half-drunk people with swords with children running around. 
« Que dites-vous ?... C'est inutile ?... Je le sais !
Mais on ne se bat pas dans l'espoir du succès !
Oh ! non, c'est bien plus beau lorsque c'est inutile ! »
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Randall Moffett
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| Posted: Wed 15 Aug, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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To be fair and completely biased  . I feel very sad to hear that this happened. It seems you cannot turn the TV on or computer to hear something like this. One thing that is clear. Drinking and any for of weapon or thing that can be a weapon can quickly lead to a very sad ending. Even if it was an accident (which I find unlikely), he still did it and easily could have avoided it so therefore should be held for this. This is why people should be responsible in all we do. Just because it is an accident does not mean it is without effect.
Gun control has not really worked as well as one would believe in the UK and other places. Sure it has taken a huge numbers of guns up but in the end now percentage wise just makes it so more baddies have them as they are the people who by illegal goods. IN addition to this you have other weapons. Of course the proposed sword ban here in England is laughable. consider that the percent of bladed crimes in the UK the percetn with common kitchen knives is in the high 90's.... so can we outlaw the knives and stop crime?
I did read an article about the numbers of crimes perpetrated here in the UK and the relation to alcohol. It was truly eye opening. In the end the head of police in Chester made some good points, while he wants harsher punishments, raised age of drinking, etc. but he does not blame the beer, spirits or other liquor for these problems. He blames the people and their parents that this has happened. WOW! A person in high public office telling us we should be responsible! Kudo's for him! I agree. If people took their responsibilities serious in what they do these rules would be unneeded. Sadly many people are not.
RPM
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Gordon Frye
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Responsible people do not need laws to behave properly, irresponsible people will not obey laws anyway. So it seems as though most laws are for after-the-fact enforcement and subesequent punishment. Thus only laws dealing with behaviour, rather than the tools used, are really useful, and then only in meeting out punishment for poor behaviour.
We could probably strike 90% of the laws from the books and see no change in people's behaviour, criminal or otherwise. Guidelines are good for people to know where the limits of good behaviour are, but it seems as though it all boils down to personal responsibility, and whether one choses to behave or not.
Cheers,
Gordon
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Nathan Keysor
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| Posted: Fri 17 Aug, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Gordon Frye wrote: | Responsible people do not need laws to behave properly, irresponsible people will not obey laws anyway. So it seems as though most laws are for after-the-fact enforcement and subesequent punishment. Thus only laws dealing with behaviour, rather than the tools used, are really useful, and then only in meeting out punishment for poor behaviour.
We could probably strike 90% of the laws from the books and see no change in people's behaviour, criminal or otherwise. Guidelines are good for people to know where the limits of good behaviour are, but it seems as though it all boils down to personal responsibility, and whether one choses to behave or not.
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I agree with you 100% Politicians enact new laws so it looks like they are doing something vs enforcing existing laws. The same guys who press for gun control are the ones who are softies when it comes to punishing the criminals. You could pretty much stick with the 10 commandments: Thou shalt not murder, thou shalt not steal.... We've increasingly complicated our system so that it is almost incomprehensible to the average person. We don't need a new law: "No sword handling after 3 or more beers (fines doubled if you're drinking Zima)"
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
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