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Steve Grisetti
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These are all from the same seller, based in the Netherlands:
Celtic sword, 500 BC Medieval, Ancient, RARE !!!! NR
Greek bronze sword 5-2th C BC Medieval, Ancient NR
Greek bronze Long Spear 3-1th C BC Medieval, Ancient NR
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Jay Barron
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Wow, Mac, if I'd known you were selling your pipe hawk I'd have made you an offer for it. RMJ historic hawks are rare as hens teeth these days.
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Chad Arnow
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Steve Grisetti
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David Wilson
Location: In a van down by the river Joined: 23 Aug 2003
Posts: 802
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Oh man... these are some extremely rare and important works.... wish I could help out!
Sorry to hear you're letting them go.... 
David K. Wilson, Jr.
Laird of Glencoe
Now available on Amazon: Franklin Posner's "Suburban Vampire: A Tale of the Human Condition -- With Vampires" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N7Y591
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Craig Peters
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Have a look at this sword here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Medieval-German-sword_W0Q...dZViewItem
The text that appears beside the photos is this: "Found in Germany. Date -probably ca.1040-60.According to Oakeshott,Sword type XII ,pommel type-G.Overall length 92,hilt (with cross guard and pommel) 16,5 cm.Blade width at the cross 5.9 cm.it is difficult to categorize this sword with certainty, for there is no clearly defined fuller in the blade. The blade is very badly balanced and heavy.The blade and the hilt are covered with rust,beneath this rust however the blade seems to be very well preserved. The location of the item is Netherlands."
Aside from the fact that the sword doesn't "look right" to me, the honesty of this seller about how the weapon feels indicates quite clearly that it's not a medieval sword, even though the seller probably thinks that it is.
How much do you want to bet it's a 19th C forgery? 
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Craig Peters
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Someone is offering a rarer form of sword on Ebay. I don't know the name of this type of sword (I believe Nathan recently sold a replica of one), but it's certainly not a "medieval combat sword" strictly speaking. It could also be a fake too, but that goes without saying.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Medieval-Combat-Sword-15c...dZViewItem
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Steve Grisetti
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| Craig Peters wrote: | | ...How much do you want to bet it's a 19th C forgery? |
Both of the examples that you posted seem ... strange ..... The lines just look too clean. Since I have no personal experience with antiques, I find such listings interesting. However, should I ever decide to take my collection down that route, I will probably start with very reputable dealers, and accept the premium in price that comes with the piece of mind.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Bruno Giordan
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Steve Maly
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| Posted: Sun 30 Apr, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Medieval type XII sword on ebay - opinions |
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| Bruno Giordan wrote: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624757281&fromMakeTrack=true#ebayphotohosting
Strange enough the seller has a so and so feedback.
The crossguard seems to be a rough work by an inesperienced bladesmith. |
It may be the lighting, but the fuller seems to be different on each side...narrower on one, wider on the other.
"When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail." ~A. Maslow
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Alexander Hinman
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If you look at the narrower fuller (I too believe it's narrower) the smith misaligned the fuller (the tool used bears the same name as its imprint) on the first swing. This is a very shoddy piece of work. There are also wire brush strokes on the close-up shots of the 'smith's mark', which was just done with one or two chisels, rather than individual punches as is traditionally done...
Whoever did this was probably semi-skilled, though,as the skill required in forging a ball pommel is more than I can amount to. I'm beginning to suspect it was made to look unfinished.
This all looks very fishy to me, especially given the unusual chipping on the edge.
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Bruno Giordan
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| Posted: Sun 30 Apr, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Medieval type XII sword on ebay - opinions |
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| Bruno Giordan wrote: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624757281&fromMakeTrack=true#ebayphotohosting
Strange enough the seller has a so and so feedback.
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Not to mention the regularity of the patina and the shoddy workmanship of the marking, who looks more like a modern wall graffito than a medieval signature.
Tehre is nothing in the shape of the marking showing a sign of medieval themes.
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Russ Ellis
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Gentlemen,
Although this is one of my more favorite types of threads and often they type where I learn the most about antiques, especially when someone who really knows there stuff is participating it has been noted on several boards lately that it is wiser to comment upon an auction after it has ended due to liability issues. I do not happen to know what Mr. Robinson's stance is on this sort of thread nor presume to speak for him, but it might be something to keep in mind. If someone participating in the auction happens to come here and sees this thread and then tells the seller that they are not going to honor their bid because of something they read on myArmoury that will almost certainly cause the seller to look for recourse against myArmoury. Perhaps it might be better to simply leave this thread as it has been historically, a thread to notify members of myArmoury that something is currently available on ebay.
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This is a standard topic
