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Steve Grisetti




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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jul, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eric Nower wrote:
Ahh more pics of Cliffords in Oct 2003:

(a) Good grief - you are 6'4", and your buddy is ?? 7ft??
(b) where is the model of Cliffords Tower + walls + moat located? I saw some artist renderings when I was there, but did not actually see that model.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The model was right in the center quad-bit , you can see part of one of the other displays in the pic from the top.

Lee's only a modest 5' somthin.....average for an englishman I think...at least everyone I met was around that tall Wink
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 10:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some pictures of the castle of Bouillion located in Belgium which I passsed through last year while on a Staff Ride (I belive this is the correct english term but I'm not sure) in the foot steps of Heinz Guderian and the German panzers in May 1940. Sadly our timetable did allow a visit despite the impressive sight, but i plan to visit the enxt time I'm in the area which is well worth the time, the town it self is very scenic.

The castle have existed as long time, it was the home of godfrey of Bouillion who went of on the 1st Crusade and became the firs ruler of the kingdom of Jersusalem. Today much of the medievalparts are hidden by the 'improvements' made by the great military engineer Vauban when he got his hans on the castle in the late 17th Century. While it's defensive abilites in the age of gunpwoder was increased much of medieval works were demolished or permanently changed.
The loaction is msot impressive as the castle sit satop a ridge line, basicly you can get at only from one side without errecting massive ramps like the Romans did at Masada.



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Steve Grisetti




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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Daniel Staberg wrote:
Some pictures of the castle of Bouillion located in Belgium ...The loaction is msot impressive as the castle sit satop a ridge line, basicly you can get at only from one side without errecting massive ramps like the Romans did at Masada.

Wow. Very impressive place. I assume the "one side" you are suggesting for massive Masada-like ramps is the side opposite the river. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hell all,

Daniel- Very nice photos...I really am amazed at some of the places they built these structures.

As promised somemore pics of Bolton...god walmarts slow sometimes WTF?!

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just picked up my copy of THE MEDIEVAL FORTRESS and I can confirm what Lance said and more: The photography is not as lush as one gets in the typical coffee table book about castles, mostly greyish black and white. Where this book is superior to most is in informational content and very clear crisp illustrations, cross sections, explanation of construction methods, side by side comparisons of types of structures, siege techniques, eastern European and Russian and Polish, etc..... fortifications that are rarely discussed or explained.

The text also focuses on the military qualities of these structures as opposed to the usual nice picture book fortress as " Chateaux " with an art history focus.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Just picked up my copy of THE MEDIEVAL FORTRESS
LOTS of words to say: I LIKE IT Razz Laughing Out Loud


Thanks for the mini-review. It's on my list of wants... that list gets longer faster than I knock pieces off...

Glad it's good. I'm really looking past arms right now... being interested also in armour, tactics, and life in general of these folks... the defensive and functional elements of structures and town layouts are really interesting to look at. It's really amazing how they evolved as well...

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the pictures along with the history lesson, lol. Always fun to see the two side by side. I'll have to try and pick those books up! Fun stuff...


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Nov, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Resurrecting an old thread - I found this link: to Warwick Castle at the Valentine Armouries site.


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Nov, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey Steve...thats a great link!
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Nov, 2005 5:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This one i like, little newer but anyway nice one Happy
http://www.bourtange.nl

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005 3:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom wrote:
This one i like, little newer but anyway nice one Happy
http://www.bourtange.nl

Bourtange looks like a great place to visit. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This site shows another of my favorites, from St. Augustine, Florida
Castillo de San Marcos
A small fortress, also a little more modern than 'medieval', but the only thing like it in the US.



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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

When I was a child, we were posted at Fort Monroe in Virginia. I didn't put a link up but I recall that the fort reminded me of the castles that we had seen in europe.W.
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005 11:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks everyone so much for the pictures, my wife "Gayle" and I hope to someday be able to go see some castles in Europe, but no real plans, just kind of one of our dreams we have together. I personally really appreciated everyones posts on this topic.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Steve;

STEVE wrote: " A small fortress, also a little more modern than 'medieval', but the only thing like it in the US. "

Well, there is fort Ticonderoga: http://www.fort-ticonderoga.org/

An if you want to count Canada, Québec city still has most of it's old walls around the old city, and the Citadel.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...-02-14.JPG

Oh, the fortress of Louisbourg in Cape Breton Island: http://fortress.uccb.ns.ca/default.htm

Mostly late 18th century stuff but some of the walls of Québec City might be earlier and there are many early 17th century buildings in the Old City.

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Dec, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Steve;

STEVE wrote: " A small fortress, also a little more modern than 'medieval', but the only thing like it in the US. "

Well, there is fort Ticonderoga ...
Whoops. I stand corrected. I had always been under the impression that Ticonderoga was primarily earth-and-timber.

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
...An if you wantt to count Canada, Québec city still has most of it's old walls around the old city, and the Citadel ... Oh, the fortress of Louisbourg in Cape Breton Island ...Mostly late 18th century stuff but some of the walls of Québec City might be earlier and there are many early 17th century buildings in the Old City.
Blush Acknowledged Blush I visited Québec as a teenager, and loved the Old City.
I suppose, if I wanted to defensively split hairs, I could note that Ticonderoga and Québec city are both newer than St. Augustine by about 100 years, but that's a pretty fine distinction in a long continuum of people building fortifications.

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