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Steve Shimmer
Location: Wickford, England Joined: 03 Jun 2012
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Scott Hanson
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Thanks Steven and Roger! Some beautiful images of that morningstar mace, and of period manuscripts too!
When I named this thread, I was laboring under the assumption that morningstars were generally a peasant weapon, and that they were developed in the early Medieval period. Seems like both of those have been shattered, and good riddance!
I'm really warming up to the morningstar as a weapon, and starting to wonder if I shouldn't be looking for any manuals depicting use of them to try to incorporate into my own HEMA practice.
Other than some applicable plays from Paulus Hector Mair on the halberd/poleaxe/staff/peasant staff, does anyone know of a manual?
Proverbs 27:17 "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another"
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Nicholas A. Gaese
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Joined: 06 Aug 2007
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For a thought, you can also apply mair's teachings on the two handed club and flail to the weapons pictured below, they'd look right at home used in such a way.
Regards.
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Sean Flynt
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Scott Hanson
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Nicholas,
I was thinking of the two handed club when I wrote "peasant staff", but the flail is another good one to add to the list.
Love the woodcut!
Proverbs 27:17 "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another"
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Lafayette C Curtis
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| Nicholas A. Gaese wrote: | | For a thought, you can also apply mair's teachings on the two handed club and flail to the weapons pictured below, they'd look right at home used in such a way. |
Interestingly, that "knight" seems to be loaded with "peasant" weapons, down to the messer with the nagel at his hip. Some sort of socio-political allegory, perhaps?
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Ushio Kawana
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Hi all 
I have very simple 2 questions about this mace 
| Quote: | Iron or steel, gold and silver, chiselled, false-damascened and russeted
Length: 48 cm, haft
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Is the inside of the mace-head empty?
If all is made of metal, I think that it is too light... (Fe: 7.874g/cm3)
Is this mace for battle or parade ?
thanks ^^
I'm interested in Medieval Arms and Armor.
But... My English is very poor ><;
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Scott Hanson
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That is definitely a ceremonial mace, not a battle mace.
I don't think the head is hollow from what I remember of the feel, but it could be and just have very thick walls, as your illustration shows. I'll ask the museum curator for Alma; they have a sister mace to that one and he would probably know.
Proverbs 27:17 "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another"
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This is a standard topic