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PostPosted: Tue 07 Dec, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Re: Riveted mail movement.         Reply with quote

Augusto Boer Bront wrote:
A friend of mine said me that sometimes the riveted maile, because of the shape of the riveted rings, can "jam" or block in place, limiting your movements (this friend made the example of the shoulder movements).
I mean, is the riveted maile less "fluid" that the butted one?
Can you tell me you experiences?

Thanks

Augusto.


I'd say your friend is either looking for a justification for why he has only butted mail, or simply hasn't spent any time wearing rivetted mail. I've done a considerable amount of the latter and have never experienced any issues with the rivets jamming or binding.

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Dec, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hm, well. Reading "Mail Unchained" once again, it seems that punched solid rings where the norm. The argument would still be relevant (even more so, even), as I can think of no practical reason to make all riveted mail if you can punch the solids.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec, 2010 4:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Flynt wrote:
FWIW, historical mail often is of slightly oval shape rather than perfectly round. I would think that could help the links naturally orient themselves with the rivet at the lower end. Might prevent such problems. Just a guess.


how extreme is the difference? looking at the pics in the maile unchained feature it isn't readily apparent (at least to my eyes). this would tend to make me think that the effect of shifting the rings would also be minimal at best.

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