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Patrick Kelly · Posted: Sun 27 Jun, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the feedback Gus. I figured this was the blade we had discussed so it kind of piqued my intrest. Overall I like the look of the piece. Let me know how it handles, just for curiosities sake. It looks like it would be more of a chopper with the POB fairly far forward. That last point is just an observation not a criticism.

Jeremy V. Krause · Posted: Mon 28 Jun, 2004 5:24 am Post subject:

I, on the other hand, dislike the etching. It seems too conventional and a bit to precise and does not, for me, fit a sword of this historical era. Too showy, not subtile, and does not look like any blade decoration I have seen in Oakeshott's Records or Archeology. Jeremy

Lee O'Hagan · Posted: Mon 28 Jun, 2004 1:33 pm Post subject:

Hi Patrick,
I dont have records yet but in archaeology of weapons,
looking at the war sword type xiii from river thames near the temple in london,c,1300,
and a couple of others i'm seeing what you mean,although before coming back to answer i had a quick measure of two of my own handand a halfs, the at lady ash came in less than an inch including the cord,but my heritage/white rose is a comfy inch by inch and a quarter,peg me in as a sausage fingered big grip guy i suppose, Laughing Out Loud

I thought the etching looked pretty neat,
though if the blade would have had the antique finish as mentioned it probably wouldnt stand out as cleanly as the polish emphasises the detail, imo,
a type xii river witham/lincoln pictured next to the one mentioned in archaeology still seems to show an inscription quite clearly, so if the lucky new owner of this one gets it a bit dirty, all good.
Cheers Patrick,
Hey Tim,
Good speaking with ya, Big Grin

Hey Gus,
if this goes as good as it look's,
Is this blade profile going to also come through your own line with different fitting's, or pretty much only via John at Odin's.
HI Steve,
Caught one of john's older posts elswhere while researching and he mentioned etching a design for someone but the stuff he uses is quite expensive just for the raw materials,before he does the work,different resists,uv affected and the like,a bit over my head but there's others here that can probly give you the full sp, i under stand the old wax way,but not the newer super accurate stuff, it seems an art in itself,

Chuck Perino · Posted: Mon 28 Jun, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject:

Angus Trim · Posted: Sat 03 Jul, 2004 9:37 pm Post subject: Well I can see........

Yep, I can see why this sword wouldn't appeal to all. In hand, its a handful. At 3 1/4 lbs, its more sword than a lot of collector guys will like. However, it handles very well for a big sword.

I have to say that the photos, as good as they are, don't do this sword justice. The handle is not as wide as the photos would have you believe, actually, "fits" the sword very well. In the photos the handle looks like its over 7 inches long, but actual fact is that the handle is six inches long.

This sword is likely a single hand sword for guys like Patrick Kelly, Nathan and myself. But for a lot of others, it would definitely be a two hander........

The harmonic balance is as good as it gets. John's carrying out of the design, mechanically is flawless, as the dynamic balance is that nice too........Yes, there is some blade presence, but after all, this is a manly sword for a time when real men walked the earth {guys like our Patrick Kelly *g*}.....

The edge geometry is also real nice. I'm not sure that I would take a $2000/ $2500 sword to a barrel, but this sword, and edge, should be able to handle it, then dominate at the cutting stand {bottles or tatami}, assuming the handler is man enough to get it "up to speed"..... *g*

I personally like the aesthetics of the sword, including the lettering in the fullers, but I'll leave the worrying about the art part of the sword to the more aesthetically inclined.....

On the "mechanical" side of the sword, or "functional" side of the sword though, I think its done as well as anyone today does it. Its done as well as I can do it {harmonic balance, dynamic balance, over all handling}, and in my somewhat arrogant opinion, there's only a small number of kustom smiths that can do this, this well consistently...

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Patrick Kelly · Posted: Mon 05 Jul, 2004 1:09 pm Post subject:

Hi Gus,

Thanks for the input on this sword. Once again, overall I really like it. It's nice to see something of a more historical nature from John. (Not that I dislike his fantasy stuff, in fact, I like it very much.) It's also nice to see an Atrim brought up to a presentation level of finish. Not neccesarily my thing, but it is nice to see it done. This sword also needs a nice scabbard to go with it.

In regards to the NG's finish, I relly think that this type of satin finish is the perfect happy medium. It's historically accurate, awfully nice looking, but still practical. I've done some cuting with the Museum Line and NG prototypes, my Big Johnsson, as well as the two newest NG's that I now have. If sensible cutting materials are used the finish won't suffer and is easily maintained. Now if a guy wants to bash plywood, metal drums, or pole mounted helmets, then all bets are off.

Other than that I don't see a lot of sparring going on with them. That will lead to some damage over time, and there are cheaper alternatives for those pursuits, and they are sharp too *g*