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Dean F. Marino
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Posted: Tue 26 Nov, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Boris Bedrosov wrote: | # Dean
The idea for the additional strip of leather at the back was directly taken from the Julien M's thread and his scabbard project.
Apart from purely aesthetic, I suppose the strap is tasked to avoid the direct contact between the seam and the core, and to fill all inevitable gaps it the contact area. Anyway, I think it's not a bad idea at all...... |
I think I'm beginning to understand - this is adding asthetic value, but in addition (if one floats the stitching OVER the "back piece"), it should reduce thread abrasion - no possible wood to thread contact. I'm sold... officially stealing the concept for my next project .
Thanks to BOTH of you for a solid engineering improvement .
In edhil, hai edhil. In edain, hai edain.
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 5:42 am Post subject: |
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And the scabbard is finished - dyed in black, covered twice with linseed oil and triple waxed
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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Kai Lawson
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Posted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 7:42 am Post subject: |
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WOW that looks great! Very elegant! Bravo!
"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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Dean F. Marino
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Posted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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It just doesn't get any better than that... STUNNING work.
In edhil, hai edhil. In edain, hai edain.
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, guys!
It's only the belt, that's left to be done.
The buckles for it have 19 mm wide "eye"
They are little too big, but these were the smallest buckles I was able to find.
The leather straps were cut - good and soft cowhide
Using a "special" DIY attachment for my belt-grinder, I calibrated both straps to uniform thickness of 3 mm.
Before dying, I want to figure out the belt-pattern. Thus, I made an experiment, which lead me to this scheme with two buckles and two straps
It's similar to this one
from Julien M's thread "Gen2 Henry V upgrades" - http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...p;start=20
Of course, I need some more refinement and adjustments, but for now it works
Not quite sure about the feeling I've got - personally had never carried a sword in such manner and for me it was absolutely new experience. But in anyway - I think it would work, of course after above-mentioned refinements and adjustments.
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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Dean F. Marino
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Posted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Boris - one comment: You are refining your carry rig in EXACTLY the right way. Unlike many others, you are actually putting it ON, and tweaking it to fit YOU. As good as anyone else's design is, it's going to be inferior to a custom fit to YOUR height, leg length, and general physiology - unless they have actually fitted you, in person.
People vary dramatically - there is no "one size fits all" rig. Your native insite continues to amaze me.
As you do this - may I suggest? Walk down a set of stairs (does the sword bang?).. Turn in a doorway. Crouch slightly to see if your scabbard drags on the ground. Make that thing adjust to YOU, rather than you adjusting to it.
In edhil, hai edhil. In edain, hai edain.
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Kai Lawson
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Posted: Fri 29 Nov, 2013 10:20 am Post subject: |
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The scabbarded sword with the blued fittings and the black scabbard looks as though it is supposed to be just as it is. The amount of black involved in this project and the plain-ish brown of the grip would, on paper, seem not to make the sword stand out much. Seeing it in pictures, it looks like a living thing, real and ready for use. Marvelous to see how it seems to bear an intrinsic sense of understated efficiency.
"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Mon 02 Dec, 2013 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well, as I want to dye the belt in "bordeaux" colour (this is the way we in Bulgaria call the wine-red colour, by analogy with the colour of the famous Bordeaux wine), I had some thoughts to dye the grip in such colour also.
Now this idea is almost discounted.
I think all colours achieved so far, and these that would come (the "bordeaux" of the belt and brass of the buckles) will create vivid and balanced coloured scheme - REAL, as Kai said in his previous post.
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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Boris Bedrosov's Armoury
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Sun 15 Dec, 2013 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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The belt fittings
* marked, cut and drilled
** after some minor art-work done and the initial sanding
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Find my works on Facebook:
Boris Bedrosov's Armoury
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Dean F. Marino
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Posted: Sun 15 Dec, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely wonderful . I, of course, am biased toward the eight pointed stars .
In edhil, hai edhil. In edain, hai edain.
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Boris Bedrosov
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Posted: Sun 15 Dec, 2013 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Dean F. Marino wrote: | ...... the eight pointed stars . |
Well, these should represent flowers actually.....
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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Boris Bedrosov's Armoury
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Thu 26 Dec, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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This project is almost finished also.....
The leather straps for the belt - the colour is again extremely dark "bordeaux" (wine-red colour), due to combined effect of the oil and wax. The upper strap is for the forward knot/belt, whaile the bottom one - the rear.
And closer to the "tongue" of the rear belt/knot, which will be the proper belt.
The forward knot/belt - front and back. I think I did it well.
And the rear knot/belt - front and back too.
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Find my works on Facebook:
Boris Bedrosov's Armoury
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Sat 28 Dec, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: |
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The buckles were riveted recently
And with this the scabbard was finished also
The belt wrapped around
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Find my works on Facebook:
Boris Bedrosov's Armoury
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Sat 28 Dec, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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And the finished sword
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Find my works on Facebook:
Boris Bedrosov's Armoury
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Sat 28 Dec, 2013 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Some more
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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Boris Bedrosov's Armoury
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Boris Bedrosov
Industry Professional
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Posted: Sat 28 Dec, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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And this project is already finished also.
I would like to thank to all forum-mates who encouraged and helped me during my work, especially Julien M and Dean F. Marino for their invaluable advise for the scabbard, and Sean Flynt whos own project ("Early 16th c. Longsword Project") made me post mine here.
Thanks a lot, guys!
Again, feel absolutely free to criticize me, especially on the technical issues.
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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Kai Lawson
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Posted: Sat 28 Dec, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'll take you up on that one Mr. Bedrosov:
...I got nuthin'. The whole thing looks like some of the museum pieces I've seen of similar type. It's elegant and utterly utilitarian, with the beauty that comes from pure form, with no extra weight or unnecessary bits. It looks real, useful, and deadly. Not a princely piece, but something a man might use to defend and attack in war or in a duel.
That's a lot of words to try to describe how it looks, but it has that 'real' flavor to it that is so often lacking in reproductions; neither very rich and precisely made, not cheap and 'meh'. Made with skill but not for the richest guy.
It's quite nice
"And they crossed swords."
--William Goldman, alias S. Morgenstern
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Bjorn Hagstrom
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Posted: Sun 29 Dec, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: |
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I must say, that while the sword is fantastic, what really impresses and inspires me the most is the scabbard work! And when I did not think it could be any better, the strapwork with buckle plates and strap-ends just brought it up another level!
There is nothing quite as sad as a one man conga-line...
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Constantin von Bernuth
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Posted: Sun 29 Dec, 2013 12:47 am Post subject: Great uild along! |
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Great build along! And beautiful outcome!
Thanks for posting!
"I can resist everything - except temptation" (Oscar Wilde)
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Julien M
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Posted: Mon 06 Jan, 2014 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Seems I missed the final chapter when this was published.
Technically your scabbard is top notch, and there is not much to criticize really (nice home made strap ends!) not to mention that you did the sword from scratch before that. There are not many non professional craftsmen who can complete such a project from scratch and end up with such a package. Bravo!
To be really really picky I would have chosen thinner straps (half an inch), they are often depicted on period art as being very narrow (they would fit between the two abdominal plates of an armour, just above the waist). I would also aim for more shallow raisers. I've changed in that regard, as the first scabbards I made all features very strong central ridges. After many conversations, I realized that such an emphasis on scabbard raisers are likely a modern concern...I don't see those so prominently featured in period art (nowadays, the blade fueller is often reproduced on with raisers, a trend that we owe to C Fletcher I believe). I'm not saying it's not the way to go or that it does not look great, I'm just moving away from it (though that might vary on the projects at hand. I'll post a scabbard I'll just wrap in a while on another thread, for the first time I went all plain, as I will focus on shape and metal parts (throat et.c).
Again, fantastic journey and great that you continue to take the time to thoroughly document all your endeavour here. You can bet I'll be reading these in the future.
Cheers,
J
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