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Felix Dale
Location: wales (only studying here) Joined: 16 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed 06 Jan, 2010 10:37 am Post subject: what kind of weapons did the muslims use in the crusades? |
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what it says on the tin.
I am specially interested in swords, as most believe they used scimitars but I seem to recall that scimitars were a later invention.
Thats what being a gentleman is all about!
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Tibor Szebenyi
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Posted: Wed 06 Jan, 2010 11:29 am Post subject: |
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In which crusade?
During the first crusade they used straight swords just like thier European enemies. Look for mamluk swords on google for example (but not the US Marine Mamluk sword...)
The curved blades came later as You wrote, some say that the Turks brougth it to this area. The Mamluk state confrontated with the Mongols, Persians, Ottomans, and later some French guys. So during the many crusades a crusader was able to get injured from a shamshir, a kilic, a seif, or anything You like. (theese words mean the same, sabre)
Check out this site:
http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/turk/TopkapiArms2.html
or my favourite site:
http://museum.velizariy.kiev.ua/turkey/istambul_ma2/index.html
You can see the tables showing the centuries.
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Hisham Gaballa
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Posted: Wed 06 Jan, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Up until the late 13th century most "Saracen" swords were straight and double-edged. There are quite a few extant early Muslim swords in the Askeri Museum in Istanbul and they also turn up on auction sites now and again.
There have been similar topics in the past with some useful links:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=12417
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Felix Dale
Location: wales (only studying here) Joined: 16 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed 06 Jan, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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oh how silly of me, the third crusade please ;P
thanks I'll look at these links
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Hisham Gaballa
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Artis Aboltins
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Posted: Thu 07 Jan, 2010 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Interesting that the secoond one is a "ring sword" of sorts. I assume the ring would have been intended for some sort of thong or chain that would prevent the weapon from beeing lost if accidentally dropped?
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Hisham Gaballa
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