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Leo Todeschini
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks very much everybody for your interest and kind words.
Julien M wrote Quote: | Would the below be the or one of the pieces you have based your ear dagger on? the fueller layout and what I can see from the hilt furniture seems to be fairly close.
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Yes they are similar in many ways, but these daggers were often of a fairly standard construction and as Nathan says, the assemetric grind was quite common.
I worked again on the dagger today and made the brass scales and cut them to shape, bonded and shaped the bone, rivetted them in place and finally rivetted the horn ears in place.
I have added a picture of me holding the dagger in an overhand grip and I am certain that this is pretty much the only way to hold and use this dagger type from an ergonomic view.
I hope you like it.
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Bryce Felperin
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Looks excellent! I really want one now!
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Nathan Robinson
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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OMG, that is really beautiful and exceeds my already high expectations by a factor of 10.
As far to grip is concerned I guess I will have to check it out as to usability with a normal point forward grip: I'm assuming that it wouldn't be impossible but not optimum.
The ice pic grip is very versatile and effective when one knows how to use it that way and not the supposedly poor grip chosen by the untrained street thug in a few " modern " knife training books I have read in the past. ( Well, the untrained do use the ice pic grip but they have no idea how best to use it )
Back to the Eared Dagger: The contrast of shape and colour of steel, brass and bone looks very rich as well as the grind lines really " popping " with the handle furniture in place.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Nathan Robinson wrote: | To the future owner of this piece:
Jean, I'm jealous.
It's beautiful already.
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Well, I don't consider it an exclusive custom piece so if you want a closely similar one I have no objections to it although with Leo the best thing is to leave him as free as possible to make variations on the theme rather than making identical pieces that might bore him rather than inspire him. ( As I think you suggested yourself before. )
If my project tempts others to give Leo more business it would certainly make me happy.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Sean Flynt
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Craig Shackleton
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've never really seen the appeal of this style of dagger.
Until now.
That is a thing of beauty.
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Boris Bedrosov
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Leo - awesome piece!
Jean - I'm jealous too
"Everyone who has the right to wear a long sword, has to remember that his sword is his soul,
and he has to separate from it when he separates from his life"
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Craig Shackleton wrote: | I've never really seen the appeal of this style of dagger.
Until now.
That is a thing of beauty. |
I agree, I sort of decided to get one as I was mildly intrigued about them but not so interested as I waited a long time before ordering one: Leo's " making of pics " really make these daggers much more appealing as well as the final results.
And as Sean wrote, really a work of art.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Ryan A. Currier
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations, Jean! I hope you love playing with it, as much as looking at it, because it really looks fun to hold!!
Will it be kept as a display piece, and subject to only infrequent handling, or do you plan to ever test it out on something? If you ever do, please, tell us about it!
It looks quite stiff.
Tod, I imagine you could answer this question. Is there ANY give to the blade at all?
I REALLY love the whole package, but the scale and tang... That is really intriguing. When the cinquedea was being discussed Tod mentioned the scales, how they often didn't match up with the tang, and I seriously debated getting things done that way, the way they are on your ear dagger here, but I chose not to and am glad and happy with my decision, but upon seeing this piece... I am actually quite fond of the tang not matching the scales. I might have to get something like this in the future. I really wonder what that would feel like after gripping it for awhile...
Tod:
That is such a beautiful piece.... I'm impressed, Sir.
Jean:
Congrats again! Wow. I'm jealous.
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Tim Lison
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Fantastic! I have always liked ear daggers and this one reminds me why! Congratulations Jean! Your collection gets more impressive and more eclectic from month to month it seems! Well done Tod.
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Wed 30 Mar, 2011 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ryan A. Currier wrote: | Congratulations, Jean! I hope you love playing with it, as much as looking at it, because it really looks fun to hold!!
Will it be kept as a display piece, and subject to only infrequent handling, or do you plan to ever test it out on something? If you ever do, please, tell us about it!
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Well I would say that all of my collection is meant to be played with and not put under glass but I rarely have the opportunity to do serious test cutting and certainly with the more valuable pieces I tend to avoid things that might scratch a finish that is hard to restore ( An Albion type finish is easy to maintain and restore but a mirror finish is not that easy to refinish in a way that is undetectable next to the original finish unless one refinishes the entire blade to a new finish ).
I do test edges to see if they will cut a sheet of paper.
Although I don't put my swords or other weapons to serious work I do want them as theoretically as good as they can be if one needed to use them in a fight in period.
So bottom line I would say frequent handling but little actual use.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Viktor Abrahamson
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Posted: Thu 31 Mar, 2011 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely stunning!
I really like these "how itīs made" threads.
/Viktor
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Julien M
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Posted: Thu 31 Mar, 2011 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Hey Tod,
What an elegant weapon...you absolutely nailed it! Would you by any chance bring it over at the Bushforge this week end? I would not mind having a closer look
Craig Shackleton wrote: | I've never really seen the appeal of this style of dagger.
Until now.
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True for me as well, and that's twice now because I felt the same about that superb cinquedea sword Tod/Owen made a while ago...I guess Tod's aesthetical approach would make an eating fork appealing to me...
Cheers,
Julien
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Craig Shackleton
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Posted: Thu 31 Mar, 2011 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Julien M wrote: |
Craig Shackleton wrote: | I've never really seen the appeal of this style of dagger.
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True for me as well, and that's twice now because I felt the same about that superb cinquedea sword Tod/Owen made a while ago...I guess Tod's aesthetical approach would make an eating fork appealing to me...
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Yes, I also had the same reaction to the cinqueda; it's not a style that's ever appealed to me until I saw Tod's.
It's a lot to do with an appreciation for good craftsmanship. The artistry and skill that go into these works draws my initial interest, and makes me look at the form itself more closely. Honestly, these WIP threads contribute to that, for sure.
[Caught a grammatical error I would have missed if I wasn't forced to preview. I like the new posting system]
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Luka Borscak
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Posted: Thu 31 Mar, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Beautiful! I really like daggers and knives lately but I'm not interested in weapons I can't use and I don't know how could I test and use dagger, especially one meant to be used in armored combat. What do you guys do with your daggers (the metal ones )?
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Ryan A. Currier
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Posted: Thu 31 Mar, 2011 7:45 am Post subject: |
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If it's half as nice as this one, I bet they are kept plenty busy by simply wiping drool off of them
But that does get me thinking... If it's stiff, well made, and feels natural in the hand, does not that well enough test the qualities of a dagger made mainly, if not solely, for thrusting?
I suggest, if you need something more visceral, finding an answer to the question I ask with impact weapons: If a wild and angry pumpkin were to attack me, what would the pumpkin look like afterward?
I've also found it quite satisfying to take sword tips to cardboard boxes, and if the type and example can sustain it, plywood. You could do the same with daggers? Take it up against different surfaces and see how it feels to pass through them.... I don't see this as completely, or at this point in history at all, necessary, but it can be fun.... And I expect with enough intent and carelessness VERY dangerous.
Do we have a finished weight on the ear dagger? =)
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Leo Todeschini
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Posted: Thu 31 Mar, 2011 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Ryan A Currier wrote Quote: | It looks quite stiff.
Tod, I imagine you could answer this question. Is there ANY give to the blade at all?
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Well the blade is pretty much 8mm at the hilt and stays up at about 5mm to pretty close to the tip and is about 250mm long so there is basically no flex at all.
Julien M wrote Quote: | Will you be taking it to Owens hammer in? |
Yes and a few other bits and pieces as well; knives and bows and what not, so see you there.
A bit more progress today on the scabbard.
I have taken two poplar boards, made a scraper and scraped the groove, which being poplar is not as neat as could be, but as it has the consistancy of a bundle of string is not the smoothest finish, but it seats the knife well. The two halves were bonded with the knife in situ to make sure it fits well. The block was shaped down socketed into the top disc of the scabbard. Ready for covering and a chape.
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Leo Todeschini
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Posted: Fri 01 Apr, 2011 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Ben Anbeek wrote Quote: | what kind of glue do you use for the scabbard core??? |
Clear epoxy. I use a variety of adhesives depending on application and other factors, they can be old school or modern.
I find that clear epoxy cures to a slight yellow and so looks pretty much like both rosin and hide glues.
So here it is after quite a slog and I hope you like the end result. I decided yesterday to reduce the top disc on the scabbard and am rather glad that I did. The scabbard is sewn from a single piece of leather and the chape was fabricated in my usual way, but with a bit more detail than I would put on as standard.
Thanks for following the story.
Regards
Tod
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