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Christopher Lee




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 3:39 am    Post subject: MRL/Windlass scabbards         Quote

Could anyone tell me just what is it that MRL uses to colour their scabbards? I was cleaning the chape of a MRL scabbard with some metho to get some old light oil and dust off. I accidently spilt a drop of metho on the "leather" part of the scabbard and immediately wiped it off and was horrified to see that it took the black colouring with it revealing the neutral coloured leather below. I now have a bare patch on an otherwise black scabbard. Can anyone tell me just what that stuff is and how i can restore the scabbard's appearance?

Christopher

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Julien M




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: MRL/Windlass scabbards         Quote

Christopher Lee wrote:
I was cleaning the chape of a MRL scabbard with some metho"
George Herbert


What is it you call metho?

Windlass uses very cheap dye to color their scabbards. Rubbing with a wet scoth brite sponge is enough to take it off in most cases.
If what you called metho was strong enough to reveal the neutral color beneath, then it's no brainer. Clean off all the old dye with it or with a scotch brite sponge, buy some proper leather dye (fieblings for instance), and re dye the all scabbard with it. You can complement the color with matching shoe polish after to finish and give some depth. You can even change from black to any other color you may like that way, those windlass scabbard take color quiet well. I've done it here:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=16127

cheers,

J
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 4:14 am    Post subject:         Quote

Windlass does not really dye their scabbards. They just use a black wax-based polishing paste that does not penetrate the leather, it just colors the surface like a paint. Most of the time, you can just scrape/wipe it off. The advice given for redying it is sound, that is what I'd recommend as well.
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Richard Eskite




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: MRL/Windlass scabbards         Quote

Julien M wrote:
Christopher Lee wrote:
I was cleaning the chape of a MRL scabbard with some metho"
George Herbert


What is it you call metho? .....

cheers,

J


It appears to be methylated spirits in Australia. Sounds a lot like what I would call denatured alcohol.
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Kevin S





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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject:         Quote

I think I've heard that you can use shoe polish for this, so if you just have a small patch to fix I would try that first.
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Christopher Lee




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject:         Quote

Thanks for that guys, very helpful. Ok, so my options appear to be either stripping back the whole scabbard and re-colouring it or attempting to patch it with some boot polish? Well, i'll start with the minimalist approach first and see how that turns out. If that doesn't do the trick then i'll strip the whole thing back. Sorry about the colloquialism about metho; didn't even occur to me that it wouldn't be called metho everywhere else. I've got a very old bottle of "raven's oil" leather stain that might be worth a try?
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