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Chad Arnow
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 Posted: Thu 05 Jul, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: Surviving examples of transitional great helms |
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Are there surviving examples of those masked helms that will in between conical Norman helms and true great helms? We see them in 12th and 13th century art, but I can't recall any surviving examples.
Anyone know of any?
Thanks!
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ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Randall Moffett
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I think we base them on only artwork really. There are some eastern european helmets with face plates but most are much later. I have never heard of a remaining one though.
sorry,
RPM
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Bruno Giordan
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| Posted: Thu 05 Jul, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Surviving examples of transitional great helms |
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | Are there surviving examples of those masked helms that will in between conical Norman helms and true great helms? We see them in 12th and 13th century art, but I can't recall any surviving examples.
Anyone know of any?
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I wish there were some ...
We can put hope in an archeological find or in a new Chalcis hoard ... from the XII century.
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Steven H
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Anyone have some examples from the art? Now that I'm looking for one I can't seem to find them.
Thanks.
Kunstbruder - Boston area Historical Combat Study
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Chad Arnow
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Damien Pinel
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| Steven H wrote: | Anyone have some examples from the art? Now that I'm looking for one I can't seem to find them.
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Here: http://jmebert.free.fr/Fiches/Fiche_H2.htm
A very talented french armor maker makes them. It is his website.
There are many examples of this type of transition helmets on period seals. You should look that way.
This is a very important period, the half faced helmet, which were rare through the end of the XIIth century, start to be very appreciated, and they are protecting the face, and then the ears, and then the back of the head.
Damien Pinel
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Bruno Giordan
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From the famous Charlemagne reliquiary
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Randall Moffett
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This is a standard topic